Moori Tips Suck!

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all my life i kept hearing the same thing over and over. moori makes the best tip. a few years back, in a quest for the greatest tip, i tried moori medium hard. when first put on, they were by far the greatest tip i ever experienced. like a hard sponge, perfect in every way! however, after a week, the tip became like a demon out of a dean koontz novel! miscueing like crazy wearing out unevenly and feeling like shit. i eventually tried moori quick, and morri medium, they both sucked. i have come to the conclusion laminated tips suck! i still like the le professional and triangle the best. triangle has thee best miscue rate. 0%! try that with a moori!!
 
THE SILENCER said:
all my life i kept hearing the same thing over and over. moori makes the best tip. however, after a week, the tip became like a demon out of a dean koontz novel! miscueing like crazy wearing out unevenly and feeling like shit. i eventually tried moori quick, and morri medium, they both sucked. i have come to the conclusion laminated tips suck! i still like the le professional and triangle the best. triangle has thee best miscue rate. 0%! try that with a moori!!

I thought my moori played okay, but I heard that the new ones are not as good as they used to be. I also have a triangle on my present cue, the Scruggs, and I think it plays great. :cool:

Laura
 
The Moori medium tips are one of, if not the, best tips I've played with. Every Moori tip I've had put on hits just like the last one I had (I'm trying to say they're consistent), and they hold chalk, as well as their shape, as good, if not better, than any other tip out there. Now, about the price ... :rolleyes:
 
Bluewolf said:
I thought my moori played okay, but I heard that the new ones are not as good as they used to be. I also have a triangle on my present cue, the Scruggs, and I think it plays great. :cool:

Laura

Hi Laura,

Good to hear from you again!

I've used Moori tips and liked them. They are pretty expensive though.
 
THE SILENCER said:
all my life i kept hearing the same thing over and over. moori makes the best tip. a few years back, in a quest for the greatest tip, i tried moori medium hard. when first put on, they were by far the greatest tip i ever experienced. like a hard sponge, perfect in every way! however, after a week, the tip became like a demon out of a dean koontz novel! miscueing like crazy wearing out unevenly and feeling like shit. i eventually tried moori quick, and morri medium, they both sucked. i have come to the conclusion laminated tips suck! i still like the le professional and triangle the best. triangle has thee best miscue rate. 0%! try that with a moori!!
Part of the benefit of using a moori, is it makes you slow down enough to chalk your cue every time you shoot. You won't get away with chalking every three or four shots with a moori.
 
I had the exact opposite experience. For me all the laminated tips I have used wear evenly, mushroom slightly or not at all, and provide a consistent hit.

Miscueing is a result of mainly a faulty stroke/trying to hit too far out on the ball and a lack of chalk.

The hardness of the tip does not matter one bit. It's whether you have a layer of chalk and where you hit the cueball. I have run three racks using a Bunjee Jump/Break cue and it has arguably the hardest tip around.

John
 
THE SILENCER said:
all my life i kept hearing the same thing over and over. moori makes the best tip. a few years back, in a quest for the greatest tip, i tried moori medium hard. when first put on, they were by far the greatest tip i ever experienced. like a hard sponge, perfect in every way! however, after a week, the tip became like a demon out of a dean koontz novel! miscueing like crazy wearing out unevenly and feeling like shit. i eventually tried moori quick, and morri medium, they both sucked. i have come to the conclusion laminated tips suck! i still like the le professional and triangle the best. triangle has thee best miscue rate. 0%! try that with a moori!!


Bernie, I knew if you kept at it, you would finally get something right. Now take your triangle and learn how to press it down the middle with a ball bering and its performance increases even more. You have the same performance of the Morri, less mis cues, no delamination that occurs that you cannot see and less problems. Bernie, if you got here, you have potential to have figured this out. I am very impresssed with you. Bravo..... :D
 
I play with a moori medium on a Josey cue. At first I did not like the tip. It miscued a ton. After a few weeks and some shaping , It sofened up, and it is not too bad for me. Make sure you have the first few layers shaped and scuffed, I think there is a problem with them when they are real new. I like the fact that you do not have to mess with mushrooming. This tip takes alot of abuse ,stayes rounded, and true. Make sure to tip pik it a little to hold the chalk better.
 
bethesilentone said:
I play with a moori medium on a Josey cue. At first I did not like the tip. It miscued a ton. After a few weeks and some shaping , It sofened up, and it is not too bad for me. Make sure you have the first few layers shaped and scuffed, I think there is a problem with them when they are real new. I like the fact that you do not have to mess with mushrooming. This tip takes alot of abuse ,stayes rounded, and true. Make sure to tip pik it a little to hold the chalk better.


Tip pik is a giant no no, you will loosen and pull up the layers and it could then delaminate and loosen on you and you may not know it. Never tip pik, file with sandpaper. You can only tip pik a triagle or a single layered tip.
 
I did not have good luck with the single Moori tip I tried until I started using the Ultimate tool and just rolling the nubbins on the tool over the tip - many fewer miscues when I started doing that (it seemed to be much less damaging to the tip than the tip piks). The LePro tip groomed with a tip pik seems about the same. Has anyone else liked Triangle as well as the Silencer (I've never tried one).
 
Williebetmore said:
I did not have good luck with the single Moori tip I tried until I started using the Ultimate tool and just rolling the nubbins on the tool over the tip - many fewer miscues when I started doing that (it seemed to be much less damaging to the tip than the tip piks). The LePro tip groomed with a tip pik seems about the same. Has anyone else liked Triangle as well as the Silencer (I've never tried one).


I set 18 of my 20 world records with a triangle. Mine are all pressed. They will do anything a Morri will do, they just do not last as long. I have written on this extensively on this subject on this forum this year. :D
 
fast larry said:
I set 18 of my 20 world records with a triangle. Mine are all pressed. They will do anything a Morri will do, they just do not last as long. I have written on this extensively on this subject on this forum this year. :D

Hi Larry. Some time back, you spoke of the Talisman tip. I finally got some sent to me, but I haven't had time to mount one up on my play cue. I'll do it real soon, and am looking forward to it. I've got lots of Triangle tips. They're quite a bit cheaper - are you saying they're just as good as well? Could you please explain the ball bearing treatment, sounds interesting...
regards.
 
Top Spin said:
Hi Larry. Some time back, you spoke of the Talisman tip. I finally got some sent to me, but I haven't had time to mount one up on my play cue. I'll do it real soon, and am looking forward to it. I've got lots of Triangle tips. They're quite a bit cheaper - are you saying they're just as good as well? Could you please explain the ball bearing treatment, sounds interesting...
regards.

Press the triangle, it will then play equal to the Talisman or the Morri, that was the big secret Predator was doing on their le pros, you thought the shaft was drawing great, it was the tip. You take a small ball bering, drill a hole in a thin block of wood, set the ball bering so half of it is in the hole, super glue it in, tool is completed. put the ball bering on the center of the tip, put both in vise and close, pressing the ball bering down into the center of the tip, which takes some skill and practice to hit the center. You do a small indent and that makes the center hard and it will not spread and the outer sides softer to grab. Thats the big secret. If you go with a laminated tip, I feel the talisman is now playing better than the Morri, that is what my tests revealed. :p
 
fast larry said:
Press the triangle, it will then play equal to the Talisman or the Morri, that was the big secret Predator was doing on their le pros, you thought the shaft was drawing great, it was the tip. You take a small ball bering, drill a hole in a thin block of wood, set the ball bering so half of it is in the hole, super glue it in, tool is completed. put the ball bering on the center of the tip, put both in vise and close, pressing the ball bering down into the center of the tip, which takes some skill and practice to hit the center. You do a small indent and that makes the center hard and it will not spread and the outer sides softer to grab. Thats the big secret. If you go with a laminated tip, I feel the talisman is now playing better than the Morri, that is what my tests revealed. :p
Good luck in finding the good ole Triangle these days.
The real good Triangle had a bluish color on top. Most of the new batches are brown and are not even close to the old ones.
A friend of mine discovered old ones from a supplier. He grabbed them all.
 
Joseph Cues said:
Good luck in finding the good ole Triangle these days.
The real good Triangle had a bluish color on top. Most of the new batches are brown and are not even close to the old ones.
A friend of mine discovered old ones from a supplier. He grabbed them all.

All I have been seeing for years is the brown, I have never had a bad one yet. Every one that went on worked, you can't say that for lepros. :D
 
fast larry said:
Press the triangle, it will then play equal to the Talisman or the Morri, that was the big secret Predator was doing on their le pros, you thought the shaft was drawing great, it was the tip. You take a small ball bering, drill a hole in a thin block of wood, set the ball bering so half of it is in the hole, super glue it in, tool is completed. put the ball bering on the center of the tip, put both in vise and close, pressing the ball bering down into the center of the tip, which takes some skill and practice to hit the center. You do a small indent and that makes the center hard and it will not spread and the outer sides softer to grab. Thats the big secret. If you go with a laminated tip, I feel the talisman is now playing better than the Morri, that is what my tests revealed. :p


So does the ball bearing go into the bottom of the tip, or onto the top? You said"pressing the ball bering down into the center of the tip" I am assuming the tool goes down on the top of the tip. Also what is the estimated size of the ball bearing or does it not really matter?I was told by the shaftmaster guy that Eferen uses Elk master tips that are pressed probably like this, and Mika uses laminated tips. Are there different methods of pressing tips? Also tip pik on the moori does not seem to mess anything up. I do it very soft after lightly scuffing and it seems to work for days. These tips do miscue though frequently even with all the special attentions. It seems they are beat so thin each layer gets shiny, and slick.
 
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I agree Jimmy M. I think that the moori "bad rep" I hear from time to time is some pretty good marketing from certain competitors. I see ZERO difference in the quality, durability and resistence to mushrooming in the moori mediums I use now vs. years ago.

Properly chalked and stroked...they don't miscue.

Regards,
Jim
 
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