moori tips
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You might want to read their item description again.
This is direct from their web-site.
"The last of the real original Moori Tips. Moori is no longer in production.
These are not the Chinese knockoffs being sold out of Japan. We purchased these direct from Mr. Moori."
So I guess that if you want some from the remaining stock of real Mooris,
buy them from Atlas (or Seyberts).
HTHs, KJ
This is direct from their web-site.
"The last of the real original Moori Tips. Moori is no longer in production.
These are not the Chinese knockoffs being sold out of Japan. We purchased these direct from Mr. Moori."
So I guess that if you want some from the remaining stock of real Mooris,
buy them from Atlas (or Seyberts).
HTHs, KJ
Moori Stoori
I had a long talk with my salesman at Cue&Case the other day when I was putting in an order that included Moori Tips. I was told directly that they could not get them to install on Lucasi cues and after an investigation with there supplier, where notified that the plant had been shut down for some time. I was also told if someone says they can get NEW Mooris, they are not being factual. Don't beat me up, this is exactly what I was told. Brian.
I had a long talk with my salesman at Cue&Case the other day when I was putting in an order that included Moori Tips. I was told directly that they could not get them to install on Lucasi cues and after an investigation with there supplier, where notified that the plant had been shut down for some time. I was also told if someone says they can get NEW Mooris, they are not being factual. Don't beat me up, this is exactly what I was told. Brian.
I'm not a Moori tip expert, nor do I have any inside info on the subject, but I will say that the rumors about Moori just won't go away. Every couple of months there's a panic that Moori's are gonna disappear off the face of the Earth, or that all Moori's currently available are counterfeits.
Two things:
(1) Every time I order Moori's from Joe at Cue Components, he always delivers. The guy gets 1,000's of Moori's on a regular basis directly from Moori.
(2) Every single successful product in the world (from make-up to jeans to tennis shoes) is counterfeited by someone somewhere sometime.
If this thread survives long enough, I'd be willing to bet Joe will pop on here to explain that Moori is doing just fine and their product is readily available.
Believe what you want, I'll just keep ordering Moori's from Joe.
Two things:
(1) Every time I order Moori's from Joe at Cue Components, he always delivers. The guy gets 1,000's of Moori's on a regular basis directly from Moori.
(2) Every single successful product in the world (from make-up to jeans to tennis shoes) is counterfeited by someone somewhere sometime.
If this thread survives long enough, I'd be willing to bet Joe will pop on here to explain that Moori is doing just fine and their product is readily available.
Believe what you want, I'll just keep ordering Moori's from Joe.
Here's the link to the last "Moori is going out of business" thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=294779&highlight=moori+barringer
Read Joe's response in post #11 and tell me he doesn't make 100% sense. Also, there's some very good (if not humorous) info on his web site in the Tip and Ferrule page.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=294779&highlight=moori+barringer
Read Joe's response in post #11 and tell me he doesn't make 100% sense. Also, there's some very good (if not humorous) info on his web site in the Tip and Ferrule page.
If Atlas is lying, they are using that lie to jack up their prices.....
What if they aren't?
Exactly! Atlas and Pechauer, both in business for a long time, are saying one thing, some others who have also been in business for a long time are saying something else. Obviously one or the other is misinformed. It would be helpful if someone who regularly buys large quantities of Moori's could post something definitive, like some correspondence direct from Moori or their distributor. Maybe that would keep this issue or rumor from coming up so often?
If it's a credibility contest between Atlas/Pechauer and Barringer, I'd go with Atlas/Pechauer any day.
That said, there are much better tips out there. Yes, even compared to the OG moori.
-roger
I have never bought straight from Moori, but have dealt with the same Moori distributor in Japan for many years, so I trust him. He says Moori has cut production and no tips have been available from Moori for over two months now. He did not say Moori had completely quit, but that due to health reasons the production had slowed pretty much to a halt at least temporarily. Someone else told me yesterday that the cuemaker he works with travels to Japan regularly and picks up tips from Moori while there and on his last trip Moori was not producing any tips at that time so he came back empty handed.
So everything I just told you is second hand info and may not be true at all, but I have no reason to doubt any of it.
I will also say that this has happened before a few years ago and Moori started back up production and the price went up. Your guess is as good as mine what the future holds for Moori Tips.
So everything I just told you is second hand info and may not be true at all, but I have no reason to doubt any of it.
I will also say that this has happened before a few years ago and Moori started back up production and the price went up. Your guess is as good as mine what the future holds for Moori Tips.
Who says that the Moori tip name/business wasn't sold? Could it be that, just maybe, another company bought the business and the tips are now being made in China, or, maybe even that Mr. Moori himself is having them made elsewhere and the original plant is no more?
As I stated in another thread I was told by a reputable source that Moori was no more and that the ones that I purchased lately both looked and played differently than those of the past. By the way, my source was one of the dealers whom Joe referenced as still having original Moori's.
Dick
I had some visitors in last week from out of the Country. They knew a lot of mutual people I did and some I did not. They informed me Mr Morri Died and they went to his funeral.
This by no means says a relitive or Big Corporate did not buy the rights to the name.
If you go to Atlas I read it as they have a or the last batch they got from Mr Morri himself. Does anyone read it in a different way?
Yeah, I'd have to agree because Joe got fined by the US Fish and Wildlife dept for selling illegal ivory a while ago. Oh, wait, that was Atlas, wasn't it? Ahh, no big deal, selling illegal contraband doesn't really effect one's credibility, right?
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
You never know what is going to happen.
That's why you stock up when you can.
That's why you stock up when you can.
I really don't care if they are still being made. Noone around here asks for them anyway. What matters is that someone is lying. Jacking up prices because you can is AWESOME BTW. I think you should charge 14.31 for wholesale though....
Good job guys... I hope your stock lasts forever...
Good job guys... I hope your stock lasts forever...
I don't know if Atlas was caught doing this or not but I'm pretty sure that Joe was found guilty of it.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/October/10-enrd-1224.html
Dick
No need to apologize, ignorance is not a crime. I'm sure Joe appreciates your effort, bringing up his illegal activities to defend him on this forum. In any case, I wasn't referring to that particular episode when I insinuated re Joe's unsavory business practices. Do a search on this very forum and you will discover a trove of people who share my low opinion of him.
-roger