Most Underappreciated AZB member of all-time?

Who is the one AZB member that always is here to help, but never gets the credit they deserve?

Which AZB member has never been the most popular, but has always offered their time in helping others?

You can share your opinions here.
 
I vote for Mr. Wilson... You are 5 posts/threads into the new username and I bet you don't make it much past 20 this time before a new version will be required.......
 
wow you're not even trying to hide anymore..

if I were the one in charge.. I would move to banning MAC addresses instead of IP addresses

he'll run out of hardware sooner or later...

just sayin
 
I'll never gamble with you

I vote for Mr. Wilson... You are 5 posts/threads into the new username and I bet you don't make it much past 20 this time before a new version will be required.......

I'll never gamble with you. Lock Artist!

Hu
 
''The Best''.......

Grady Matthews,,,he always gave his all and bled green felt,,,

,,,,,,Alan,,,,,,,,,,
 
wow you're not even trying to hide anymore..

if I were the one in charge.. I would move to banning MAC addresses instead of IP addresses

he'll run out of hardware sooner or later...

just sayin

It'd be nice if the MAC address crossed routers intact, but it doesn't. (That's how Layer 3 routing works, btw -- as the packet traverses through routers, the source and destination MAC addresses change. By the time the packet reaches the destination, the source MAC address will be that of the router or firewall nearest the destination host, not of the original sending host itself. See reply post "2" from "chris reynolds": https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/11724)

But I get what you're saying -- ban that lowest-level item to get as close to him (pocketpoint) as possible. Unfortunately, in the land of TCP/IP, that's the IP address itself. And even then, that doesn't do anything if he's using a regional proxy server or IP anonymizer.

-Sean <-- damn, hate talking shop when not working / at job
 
Moi.



..............

Wrong again...:smile:
You are good to have a discussion with....
..but many don't seem to realize that a definition of 'discussion' is...
..examination by argument..

And you next post..I will vehemently disagree with..:angry:
 
Wrong again...:smile:
You are good to have a discussion with....
..but many don't seem to realize that a definition of 'discussion' is...
..examination by argument..

And you next post..I will vehemently disagree with..:angry:

Rather than arguing with me here, I'd appreciate it if you go and vote on my argument with gromulan in the snooker forum.

Argumentative AND productive!
 
It'd be nice if the MAC address crossed routers intact, but it doesn't. (That's how Layer 3 routing works, btw -- as the packet traverses through routers, the source and destination MAC addresses change. By the time the packet reaches the destination, the source MAC address will be that of the router or firewall nearest the destination host, not of the original sending host itself. See reply post "2" from "chris reynolds": https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/11724)

Thanks. I've always wanted to know that. My life is complete.


I didn't really take much notice of PocketPoint's posts, so can someone fill me in on what he did wrong please?

And what is the point in continually banning him? What does it achieve, other giving the nazi hunters an inflated sense of self worth?

And and, seems to me we're better off banning the dullards, rather than those that are creative in opening thought-provoking threads.
 
you can't ban anyone but the willing or morons

It'd be nice if the MAC address crossed routers intact, but it doesn't. (That's how Layer 3 routing works, btw -- as the packet traverses through routers, the source and destination MAC addresses change. By the time the packet reaches the destination, the source MAC address will be that of the router or firewall nearest the destination host, not of the original sending host itself. See reply post "2" from "chris reynolds": https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/11724)

But I get what you're saying -- ban that lowest-level item to get as close to him (pocketpoint) as possible. Unfortunately, in the land of TCP/IP, that's the IP address itself. And even then, that doesn't do anything if he's using a regional proxy server or IP anonymizer.

-Sean <-- damn, hate talking shop when not working / at job


Sean,

No surprise you are spot on, especially when talking shop. No way to ban anyone if they really want to post. However most of the folks needing banning are seeking recognition so forcing them to be unknowns is usually almost as good. They get bored being anonymous and fade away.

I did have a chuckle years ago. Banned a guy three or four times that was using a class B Boeing address. I told him to stay gone or I would solve my problem with the Boeing IT guys help! I usually got the job done one way or another but even people using AOL dial-up were impossible to ban back in the day without blocking half the internet.

I used to know all the details of headers and footers and footers in headers, frames and packet disassembly and reassembly, I'm twenty years or so out of date now! Lucky when I manage to turn my machine on and it actually works on the first try. Sad thing is that still makes me better than most of the local techs or tech support desks I call.

Hu
 
wow you're not even trying to hide anymore..

if I were the one in charge.. I would move to banning MAC addresses instead of IP addresses

he'll run out of hardware sooner or later...

just sayin

MAC addresses don't make it past any router, so that will not work. You would not be in charge for long.

Dave <-- replied too fast, before reading Seans reply ...... never mind
 
Thanks. I've always wanted to know that. My life is complete.

Boy Tim, you really had to reach hard for that one, eh? ("Gotta get Sean back for all the times he'd called me to the carpet for being TheContrarian. Gotta, gotta, gotta.") That part of my post was just an FYI; you conveniently snipped the rest of my post, which had the real point.

I didn't really take much notice of PocketPoint's posts, so can someone fill me in on what he did wrong please?

And what is the point in continually banning him? What does it achieve, other giving the nazi hunters an inflated sense of self worth?

And and, seems to me we're better off banning the dullards, rather than those that are creative in opening thought-provoking threads.

Tim, there is a difference between contributing discussion to a forum, and contributing strife to a forum. Big difference between the two. One encourages thoughtful discourse and exchange of ideas; the other is selfish gratification (e.g. "see see see? Look, see what I did? I caused people to get their hackles up!"). PocketPoint was a good example of the latter -- the stuff he posted was intentionally to light the fuse of topics HE KNOWS will cause strife. Pet examples are aiming and APA (league). Also, his STYLE was very obnoxious as well. He would start new threads with one-liner random musings as if the AZB forums were his personal Twitter account. Again, there's the difference between someone CONTRIBUTING to the forum, and someone DUMPING into the forum.

And you can see by his multiple attempts at "getting back onto AZB" that he's fixated on his task. Trolls tend to be that way. Ordinary people who actually have something to contribute will just say, "fine, they don't want me? That's their loss!" and move on. That would be the adult thing to do, by the way. Trolls tend to have some nature about them still stuck in childhood.

Dullards, by the way, although non-contributory, at least don't intentionally cause strife on the forums. And, that's a very subjective and relative term, too. I'd love to know what your definition of dullard might be. Perhaps more than half of the well-behaved folks on here who CONTRIBUTE, but because they don't push buttons or go after probing sensitive areas, they are considered "dullards" by you? (I'll bet I'm public enemy number one on your list, then!)

-Sean
 
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