Moved ball while jacked up?

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poolscholar

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Cue ball fouls only. But if you move a ball during a stroke or right after (commonly if jacked up over a ball and contact that object ball on stroke/follow thru) then its a foul

I swear I've played this rule but I can't remember which tournament/tour used it
 
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I think it is not a foul and other player moves ball back or leaves it.

I was playing one of the best known players and touched a ball that had me a little jacked up around center table.

He jumped to put it back and placed it right next to cb, on the shot angle too. I then needed a step stool to reach that shot.

Moves abound. I learned one that day.
 
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As long as the ball you bumped didn't cross the path of the object ball in such a way that it would have altered it's travel or any other balls that would have moved on a legal shot, then the opponent can choose to put it back or leave it.
 
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couldnthinkof01 said:
As long as the ball you bumped didn't cross the path of the object ball in such a way that it would have altered it's travel or any other balls that would have moved on a legal shot, then the opponent can choose to put it back or leave it.
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I think some rulesets make it a foul if you're jacked up over the moved OB (because it might allow a hit that wasn't otherwise possible).

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poolscholar said:
Cue ball fouls only. But if you move a ball during a stroke or right after (commonly if jacked up over a ball and contact that object ball on stroke/follow thru) then its a foul

I swear I've played this rule but I can't remember which tournament/tour used it
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The rules depend on the event, some play cueball only no matter what, some play it's a foul if you move it during the stroke of shooting but not before (say lining up and you tap the ball), some play if more than one is moved it's a foul but not if only one is.

Many of my local events have started using the rule of moving a ball during the shot is foul but before it can just be moved back. It's not a bad rule.
 
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Black-Balled said:
I think it is not a foul and other player moves ball back or leaves it.

I was playing one of the best known players and touched a ball that had me a little jacked up around center table.

He jumped to put it back and placed it right next to cb, on the shot angle too. I then needed a step stool to reach that shot.

Moves abound. I learned one that day.
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How long could this go on?
 
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Black-Balled said:
I think it is not a foul and other player moves ball back or leaves it.

I was playing one of the best known players and touched a ball that had me a little jacked up around center table.

He jumped to put it back and placed it right next to cb, on the shot angle too. I then needed a step stool to reach that shot.

Moves abound. I learned one that day.
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Same thing has happened to me... The opponent wasn't the pro he is now when the move was pulled though.

I have played rules that were 'generally' CB only, but anything that effected cueing also counted.
 
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Gotta know the rules for each location or league. When I play Mondays It is up to the opponent to put it back where it belongs, but most of the time they wave it off and let the player put it back. When I play Tuesday, any contact is an instant foul, and they love to watch closely. Your shirt just touching a ball when you lean over to shoot can be called as a foul even if there is no movement. Most don't go that far, but they will point it out and occasionally you get someone that will press the issue.
 
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Black-Balled said:
I think it is not a foul and other player moves ball back or leaves it.

I was playing one of the best known players and touched a ball that had me a little jacked up around center table.
He jumped to put it back and placed it right next to cb, on the shot angle too. I then needed a step stool to reach that shot.

Moves abound. I learned one that day.
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I have had that happen a few times. It made me start to wonder what would happen if I "accidentally" moved his ball into a pocket while playing on a bar table. Its still cue ball fouls only.
 
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jimmyco said:
Shooter moves object ball while jacked up, opponent replaces before shot, shooter repeats offense, ...
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I don't know, could possibly depend on if it is before or after a bird flies in the room.

But I see your suggestion...fight fire with fire. The 2nd accidental bump may have been predicted by the first replacer though, hence the reason the ball was "replaced" in the worst spot possible.
 
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In rotation, yes, opponent can move the ball back or let it stay.
In 14.1 or one pocket it is a foul, or at least that's they way I have always played it.
 
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I was watching a couple guys gamble and the object ball that he was jacked up over was frozen to the Cue ball. His opponent explained to him that If he hit the object ball first it would be a foul because the Cue ball would have moved before the tip got to it
 
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Regardless of what rules you use, when I play it’s if you touch and move in the slightest any object ball,
then it’s a foul. It’s the same in golf but worse because if you assume your stance and the untouched ball
moves, it’s a penalty stroke. Pool rules should be standardized and local rules can become somewhat odd.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
I think some rulesets make it a foul if you're jacked up over the moved OB (because it might allow a hit that wasn't otherwise possible). ...
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Maybe that was written for someone I used to play. His standard move if he was totally jacked up by an object ball was to drag his ferrule on the object ball on his back stroke to pull it back a couple of inches and then shoot with the now clear cue ball. "Cue ball fouls only!"
 
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Bavafongoul said:
Regardless of what rules you use, when I play it’s if you touch and move in the slightest any object ball,
then it’s a foul. It’s the same in golf but worse because if you assume your stance and the untouched ball
moves, it’s a penalty stroke. Pool rules should be standardized and local rules can become somewhat odd.
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Is that golf rule standard? What if you stomped your feet getting into position to elicit ball movement? Tamping the area around the ball with a club?
 
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