Muscle Memory/Upper Arm

Mike...Where you're supposed to hold the cue, has to do with your natural bridge length, and your wingspan. It has NOTHING to do with holding the cue on or off the wrap. If the correct grip position is on the butt sleeve, then that's where it is...like it or not. Or you can have a cue made with a wrap that is purposely built farther back on the butt. Many tall players hold their cue on the butt sleeve...nothing wrong with it, as long as it's right for the player (hand falls directly under the elbow, with tip at contact with the CB). You're starting to become OCD again, about this stuff. Maybe you should just PLAY POOL, and not worry about it.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

DrCue'sProtege said:
one thing i noticed on my very short video was that my forearm wasnt perpendicular to the cue at the set position. seems like that is something i was told was necessary. but for me to get it there means i have to grip way back on the cue, off the irish linen grip. and that feels uncomfortable for me.

again, i doubt i ever get the mechanics that i probably should have. i think i am going to concentrate on delivering the cue tip straight through the aim line and let the chips fall where they may.

DCP
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Pete...Thank you. There are many pendulum swing players who can readily do a power draw, without dropping the elbow. BTW, I enjoyed reading your description of the internal workings of the muscles involved, but I doubt many, outside of kinesiologists, can really understand it easily. I try to keep it simple! KISS rules!

Mike Davis is the total antithesis, and as mentioned, it works perfectly well for him (and nobody in their right mind would try and change his swing). At the same time, imo, it would be VERY difficult to either copy that style, or teach it to someone else. His is unique, and he is one of the best players out there...not to mention a heck of a nice guy to boot! :grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

yankeepapa said:
No.

I will say that it's not currently possible for me.

I am quite willing to concede that many can do so. They have their biceps brachii under better control than I.

cordially,

pete
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DrCue'sProtege said:
Just wanted to mention that tonight i got my digital camera out and video'd myself shooting a few shots. and i discovered two things:
1) on draw shots my elbow will collapse
2) on all the other shots it looked pretty good to me. at least alot better than what it was a long time ago until Scott Lee made me aware that the collapsing elbow could be a detriment to progress.

so, i guess as the cold winter months creep slowly into southern Indiana i am going to have alot to practice. starting to almost look forward to practicing 2-4 hours a day again.

DCP
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If you can post a video so we can see exactly what you're doing maybe we can give you some better suggestions.

Personally I never felt elbowdropping mattered much unless it happens before you contact the ball or if you force it to drop as part of your stroke.

But if it's important to you, one thing to check is your grip. You'll definitely drop your elbow if you choke up your grip, which is pretty common on power shots. That can be remedied by your grip position, how it opens/closes, and training yourself not to choke it up. Hope that helps.
 
Eric. said:
Google: OCD


Eric
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LMAO, now thats funny!

and no, i dont have OCD with the elbow drop. all of a sudden i have started to run some racks after using Tom Simpson's Stroke Groover and thats gotten me back in the mood to practice. and my last instructor wanted me to keep from spilling the coffee so, as a result, i am concerned with that aspect of the stroke.

again, i think i will always spill the coffee, and i am just going to have live with being a "Spiller" and concentrate on the cue tip delivery instead.

DCP
 
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