My experience with Tony of Guerra Cues

Remy

Remy

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I brokered a Guerra cue for a friend of mine who like myself likes Brazilian rosewood. I contacted Tony, sent the payment and the cue was shipped right away, I opened the package and I thought hmm very cool .... it was in a black pouch with Guerra Cues written on it, I must say I was impressed.

I inspected the cue and I was even more impressed! The finish is top notch, the wrap is black elephant ear and is completely flush and the rings are very unique and they all line up.

The shafts are 4.0 and 3.9 oz and they are not the typical white maple that I'm used to seeing, they are yellowish and have birdseyes all over them! I'll admit I had never seen birdseyes on shafts before Tony calls them bowling alley or something to that effect, very nice shafts indeed. The tips are black Kamuis.

I took the cue to the pool hall to meet its new owner and Jim let me play with it to check it out or as he put it "to get the misses out of it" Lol.
I played 4 racks of 8 ball with it that day and I have to say I am very impressed with the hit and playability of this cue! it was very easy to move the rock around. In fact I had a break and run and seems like I ran out whenever I got on the table, I could not believe how good this cue hit.

The only "flaws" for lack of a better word that I could find with this cue were the following:
I can see the seam on the wrap and when screwing the cue together the shaft is slightly bigger than the joint but I'm sure that as Tony gains more experience building cues he will be able to fix these issues. The new owner didn't think that was a big deal though, he thought that I was crazy and was being too picky, lol.

Tony, I know that I have been critical of you in the past and specially of your pool game after watching a video of you playing in some tournament, lol. But I also give credit where credit is due and I want to congratulate you! keep up the good work and look forward to seeing more of your work in the near future.

Here's some pics of the cue that I took:

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Here's Jim holding the cue :)
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Good post
I think Tony's cues look real nice
The felt liner with his logo is a nice touch as well

What tips did he use?
 
I am flattered Tony.
I am so happy you like the cue ;)
The shaft issue has been resolved. When that cue was finished I did not have my sanding mandrels done and now they are.
I know my cues play good, but those comments coming from you, mean a lot.
You have played with almost any cue on the planet and your feedback is us so much appreciated.
I have 8 cues just about done and some are available.
I have 2 brazilian rosewood pj's already sold, an ebony pj already sold and 3 crazy wrapless cocobolo cues and 1 olivewood and bem available. I will post pictures next week.
Enjoy the cue buddy.


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Guerra Cues said:
You have played with almost any cue on the planet
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You're right Tony.... but I have never played with a Sugartree or a Murray Tucker and you know what? I never will!
Both of these guys turned me down a couple of years back when I had a lot more money to spend on cues.

No big deal though, their loss = someone else's gain :)

Pfffff :) ...... I can care less now, I'll stick to the guys in my sig..... present and future cues :)

Keep up the good work man :grin:

Tony V
 
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Remy said:
You're right Tony.... but I have never played with a Sugartree or a Murray Tucker and you know what? I never will!
Both of these guys turned me down a couple of years back when I had a lot more money to spend on cues.

No big deal though, their loss = someone else's gain :)

Pfffff :) ...... I can care less now, I'll stick to the guys in my sig..... present and future cues :)

Keep up the good work man :grin:

Tony V
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Tony,
I speak with Eric several times and I spoke once with Tucker a long time ago... Super nice guys to talk to and their cues play good as well, super solid playing cues.
If you talk to Jamie "Worminator" he might be able to get you one.
Thanks for your super nice and kind comments.


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Guerra Cues said:
Tony,
I speak with Eric several times and I spoke once with Tucker a long time ago... Super nice guys to talk to and their cues play good as well, super solid playing cues.
If you talk to Jamie "Worminator" he might be able to get you one.
Thanks for your super nice and kind comments.


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Thanks Tony. I'm good.
 
Remy said:
You're right Tony.... but I have never played with a Sugartree or a Murray Tucker and you know what? I never will!
Both of these guys turned me down a couple of years back when I had a lot more money to spend on cues.

No big deal though, their loss = someone else's gain :)

Pfffff :) ...... I can care less now, I'll stick to the guys in my sig..... present and future cues :)

Keep up the good work man :grin:

Tony V
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LOL Really? Wow. How can a guy ever win? Murray nor I took your order because we didn't want to waiting forever. It's not personal, that we don't like you or anything. And i'm assuming Murray was as polite as I was in explaining to you why he couldn't currently accept orders. Now We are made to look like bad guys because we "turned you down". We accept your order, you wait forever, get pissed & rag on us. We turn you down & you get pissed, rag on us. I'm sorry if I took your post the wrong way but seriously how can you really be so openly critical when nobody did anything all to foul you? Like a cue making friend of mine said to me this past week, "if they crucified Jesus, we don't have a chance".
 
qbilder said:
LOL Really? Wow. How can a guy ever win? Murray nor I took your order because we didn't want to waiting forever. It's not personal, that we don't like you or anything. And i'm assuming Murray was as polite as I was in explaining to you why he couldn't currently accept orders. Now We are made to look like bad guys because we "turned you down". We accept your order, you wait forever, get pissed & rag on us. We turn you down & you get pissed, rag on us. I'm sorry if I took your post the wrong way but seriously how can you really be so openly critical when nobody did anything all to foul you? Like a cue making friend of mine said to me this past week, "if they crucified Jesus, we don't have a chance".
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Eric,

What you have described here is life imitating art, personified.

Rick
 
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LOL Really? Wow. How can a guy ever win? Murray nor I took your order because we didn't want to waiting forever. It's not personal, that we don't like you or anything. And i'm assuming Murray was as polite as I was in explaining to you why he couldn't currently accept orders. Now We are made to look like bad guys because we "turned you down". We accept your order, you wait forever, get pissed & rag on us. We turn you down & you get pissed, rag on us. I'm sorry if I took your post the wrong way but seriously how can you really be so openly critical when nobody did anything all to foul you? Like a cue making friend of mine said to me this past week, "if they crucified Jesus, we don't have a chance".
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Mr. Crisp, I'm not pissed off and don't mean to come off as being critical either. That was 5 years ago so I assume the cue would have been ready by now?
I'm waiting on a cue by another cuemaker that was placed almost 5 yrs ago and I don't bother or "rag" on him either, I understand a cuemaker's time is not the same as real time.

Like I said is no big deal, I'm very happy with the cues I have and look forward to playing with the ones I have on order.

Have a good day :)
 
It's ok. No harm, no foul. Like I said, I apologize if I took the post the wrong way. Just seems really offensively under toned is all, very passive aggressive.

Sometimes I wonder why any new guys are even interested in building cues. Success is punishment. Seems nowadays people like to be extraordinarily cruel & malicious with no regard to how their words & actions might hurt somebody else. In fact, it seems more & more often the intention is exactly to hurt somebody. And for what, cues? If I ever consider quitting cue making, the one & only reason will be the hatred & malice directed towards us builders. It seems if we don't bend over backwards to kiss a guy's ass, we are bad guys. Nobody ever stops to consider that we are people, with families, lives, and our every priority isn't revolved around cues. So when all the negativity comes around, it really dampens the enjoyment we get out of cues. I'm by no means saying that your post was any of this, just explaining why we builders are sometimes a bit sensitive. It gets annoying, to say the very least, catching hell from naggy buyers and then again from the people who have never even dealt with us. It is like a mild mafia or mob approach, threatening us with "the forum" or making underhanded remarks about our personal character. Fact is, we build cues because we love doing it. Some guys try making a living doing it while some of us do it only for fun. Murray & me do it for fun. So yet again, I do apologize if I took your post the wrong way. Hopefully now you understand why I see things the way I do & am sometimes seemingly sensitive. It just seems like I can never do anything right.
 
qbilder said:
It's ok. No harm, no foul. Like I said, I apologize if I took the post the wrong way. Just seems really offensively under toned is all, very passive aggressive.

Sometimes I wonder why any new guys are even interested in building cues. Success is punishment. Seems nowadays people like to be extraordinarily cruel & malicious with no regard to how their words & actions might hurt somebody else. In fact, it seems more & more often the intention is exactly to hurt somebody. And for what, cues? If I ever consider quitting cue making, the one & only reason will be the hatred & malice directed towards us builders. It seems if we don't bend over backwards to kiss a guy's ass, we are bad guys. Nobody ever stops to consider that we are people, with families, lives, and our every priority isn't revolved around cues. So when all the negativity comes around, it really dampens the enjoyment we get out of cues. I'm by no means saying that your post was any of this, just explaining why we builders are sometimes a bit sensitive. It gets annoying, to say the very least, catching hell from naggy buyers and then again from the people who have never even dealt with us. It is like a mild mafia or mob approach, threatening us with "the forum" or making underhanded remarks about our personal character. Fact is, we build cues because we love doing it. Some guys try making a living doing it while some of us do it only for fun. Murray & me do it for fun. So yet again, I do apologize if I took your post the wrong way. Hopefully now you understand why I see things the way I do & am sometimes seemingly sensitive. It just seems like I can never do anything right.
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Wow! It was not my intention to hurt anybody with my post but if I did I apologize.

Murray you're right, having a family and spending time with them is a lot more important than making a cue.
 
Remy said:
Wow! It was not my intention to hurt anybody with my post but if I did I apologize.

Murray you're right, having a family and spending time with them is a lot more important than making a cue.
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You didn't. And I apologize if I insinuated that you did. I mentioned several times that I wasn't directing anything toward you, just explaining why cue makers might get a bit sensitive at times. Hope you understand what I was saying & that I meant no ill at all toward you.
 
Murray Tucker said:
I guess that will teach me to take a couple of years off for a silly little thing like having another child.
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That's womens work ... now go build some sneakys !

Dave <-- thinking it's good to be a few thousand miles from Florida right about now
 
Mr Crisp

Bottom line: IMO Sugartree Cues = Over hyped and overpriced and Will neva eva own one.
 
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Wow. I just want to say how much I love Tonys cue he made for me a while back. Figured cocobolo w/ amboyna burl. Thanks Tony!

Matt w/ exoticburlwood.com
 
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