My first uploaded video...

Winston846

Aspiring 14.1 Player
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Here's my first video upload. Haven't played much in the last few weeks, but I had my Nikon CoolPix with me, so I decided to see what I could catch on film.

So let's hear it - good and bad. It's officially open season on me. :p

32 ball run
 
Here's my first video upload. Haven't played much in the last few weeks, but I had my Nikon CoolPix with me, so I decided to see what I could catch on film.

So let's hear it - good and bad. It's officially open season on me. :p

32 ball run

Great job. You really didn't have much to work with after that last break shot, and I think you did a very good job to at least get a few balls loose. In those situations, your want to contact the rack so that you nudge out a dead ball. You have to know exactly how and where to contact the rack to do that. I have several videos on Vimeo and Youtube where I do that - it sounds impossible at first, but if you practice it enough, you'll eventually master it. I'm prone to get out of position on my break ball, so I'm embarrassed to say that I have had a lot of practice doing that.

During your run, there were several times where you would have benefited from taking your time and looking at how the balls connected with each other. That causes you to have your cue ball moving around more than it should be. Most of us get in trouble that way, and that is what happened on that last key ball shot - you came an inch or two too far and paid for it. If you go back, you can probably see a way that you could have set up for a stop shot on that key ball. When you learn how to do that and plan for it, it takes the rails and cloth speed out of the equation when getting position on that break ball. That solves a lot of headaches. Overall, I enjoyed watching you shoot, and look forward to seeing more from you.
 
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First, thank-you for posting this. It was a pleasure to see you shoot. :)

There isn't much I can say about the video that BlackJack hasn't already covered. I noticed in the first rack during the first few shots, you were very focused on the next shot. This is not a bad thing, but I feel you might want to consider scanning the rack for shots with better opportunity. I get "tunnel vision" at times and it has caused me problems by me focusing on a shot and not seeing an easier shot or one that would reap a better result. I see in rack two, you were taking more time and reviewing the layout more.

I like how you backed away from the table to get a better or different view of the angle of the shot. I have a tendency to "hover over" the table and by doing so, not see the tangent line or get a better view of the contact point. Your stroke seems fine but don't let whitey get away from you on the breakout shots. Good job on the recovery at the ending. :grin-square:

I enjoyed watching you play and hope to see more. Now, I am going to the local pool hall today and hit some. Your video inspired me to shoot.

Great job! :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the insight/input. It's amazing how much you can see from a 3rd party perspective. Looking back on this run and replaying it a few times, I couldn't help but think, "what were you thinking?" on some of those shots.

In the first rack, while it was my intention to break with the 9, it was never my intention to get to it by putting the cue in the rack. I had 2 other balls around the rack and a ball in the center of the table to get to it. When I shot the 4, I wanted to come back out to the center of the table, but what possessed me to use high-right and go 3 rails for this - for which I came up miserably short. If you listen closely, you can even hear me say "That was terrible" after that shot because then all I was left with was the ball in the middle of the table up in the far corner pocket. I should have just drew off the near rail back out to the center. So I'm stuck shooting the 12 up in the far corner - and that was originially my ball to get to the 9.

David, yes I came off the cushion about 3 inches too far and you can see it in my expressions after I hit the shot. But where I think I really screwed it up was the shot before when I shoot the 12 in the side. I come up short on the follow. Another inch or two of roll gives me a not so steep angle on the key ball that I could pull it more straight back. I used a ton of right spin on that shot and still couldn't hold the angle. I did watch your "finding the key to the key" video, and I thought I actually had a pretty good ending pattern the second rack and just didn't roll it far enough and got too steep of an angle on the key. These are the stupid things that keep me from higher runs.

And watching that video again (and again and again), I do move the cue ball way too much. But I do have a sequence in the 2nd rack where I think I cleared out all the balls behind the rack pretty good, going back and forth between the corner pockets with very little cue ball movement. I do seem to depend on speed control too much, and again Blackjack makes a very good point that I'm kinda making an analogy to golf to help me remember. In golf, if you don't want your ball to go in the water or bunker or whatever, you hit it in a place that you take that water or bunker out of play, and I think that's what Blackjack is trying to tell me. I wouldn't be so dependent on speed control if I patterned the balls better to try to take moving the cue ball out of play.

In the third rack, I miss the cut on the 1, but I know someone's going to point out that why didn't I shoot that BEFORE I shot the 6. That's because you really can't tell from the camera angle, but the 6 partially blocked the 1. I only had 1/2 a pocket to shoot at, so I decided to shoot the 6 to clear the way and get back out to the center of the table to then shoot the 1. I just got a little steep on the angle and missed it. :(

Funny... when I watched Wiggly's video, that's pretty much what I told him - that he needed better shot selection. Looks like I need to practice what I preach.

Again, thanks for the input.
 
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Enjoyed watching your video. Great pool room.
Good move to keep the cue ball in the rack at the end of the first rack.
Second rack you came up a little too straight on the break shot but had the right idea to set up for the break. You made a great shot up the right hand corner. The mistake that ended the run was not shooting a ball that was to the right of the pack (I think it was the 8 ball). It was a very good break shot. Instead, you shot the ball on the left side of the table and came up with no shot. Remember, there was a small window to get on that 8 ball and shoot it. It is best to shoot those shots instead of making another ball and trying to come back to that shot. Almost all the time you will not get back to that window.
You have a fast pace. Nothing wrong with that if that is what you like. I too play with a fast pace but maybe a bit slower. Except in my video where I ran 82 balls in 15 mins.
Thanks for posting Lance.
 
Enjoyed watching your video. Great pool room.
Good move to keep the cue ball in the rack at the end of the first rack.
Second rack you came up a little too straight on the break shot but had the right idea to set up for the break. You made a great shot up the right hand corner. The mistake that ended the run was not shooting a ball that was to the right of the pack (I think it was the 8 ball). It was a very good break shot. Instead, you shot the ball on the left side of the table and came up with no shot. Remember, there was a small window to get on that 8 ball and shoot it. It is best to shoot those shots instead of making another ball and trying to come back to that shot. Almost all the time you will not get back to that window.
You have a fast pace. Nothing wrong with that if that is what you like. I too play with a fast pace but maybe a bit slower. Except in my video where I ran 82 balls in 15 mins.
Thanks for posting Lance.

Mike, thanks for looking and commenting. I think I see where you're talking about. At 7:45, I can shoot the solid ball to my right (I believe it was the 8) instead of the 6 and then getting a bad angle on the 1 ending the run. OR, I could have shot the 6 with a bit of low-right and came 2 rails around the rack and back out to the center where I could have had either the 8 or the 1. But if I shot the 8 at 7:45, I also noticed I had 2 striped balls flanking it that should have guaranteed me a shot afterwards. Good catch. That was probably the better shot to take at that time.
 
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Mike, thanks for looking and commenting. I think I see where you're talking about. At 7:45, I can shoot the solid ball to my right (I believe it was the 8) instead of the 6 and then getting a bad angle on the 1 ending the run. OR, I could have shot the 6 with a bit of low-right and came 2 rails around the rack and back out to the center where I could have had either the 8 or the 1. But if I shot the 8 at 7:45, I also noticed I had 2 striped balls flanking it that should have guaranteed me a shot afterwards. Good catch. That was probably the better shot to take at that time.


Yes, that was the shot. If you would of took the 8 ball at that time. the cue ball would of went to the left, right into the heart of those balls.
Playing the 6 ball with low left, trying to get back on the 8 is hard to do.
Remember, the windows of opportunity are small.
 
Just curious about one shot. At 55 seconds you come off the rail and bump a ball. Is that what you wanted to do, or were you trying to do something else?

Also, you may know this but when you broke the last rack from the back, it is better to hit the far corner ball so that your cue ball can get some daylight if you can manage it.

Thanks for the video.
 
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Just curious about one shot. At 55 seconds you come off the rail and bump a ball. Is that what you wanted to do, or were you trying to do something else?

Yes, that ball was in the rack and I came off the rail thinking I could bump it out for a potential break ball. At that point, the balls were opened enough that I really couldn't get in any trouble unless I got up against something (which I almost did).

Also, you may know this but when you broke the last rack from the back, it is better to hit the far corner ball so that your cue ball can get some daylight if you can manage it.

I do know that, but if my cue ball control was that good, I'd be headed off to New Jersey this fall. ;)


Thanks for the video.

You're welcome.
 
Hmmm...

Holy Lou Butera, Batman! Do you shoot fast! 28 balls in 6 minutes 14 seconds. At that pace, if you ran 100 it would've only taken 22 minutes and 17 seconds!!!

I've watched you play for over 30 years and I gotta say, watching someone on camera is totally different than watching them live. You were quick on everything. Surveying the table, shot selection, warm up strokes, racking the balls and some shots you weren't staying down to finish the shot. I only watched it once so I can't critique shot selection, position play, etc., the others have done a good job of that above. But I did notice the cue ball traveling around the table a lot, maybe more than it should. I'll watch it again when I get a chance. Next time zoom into the table so we don't have to sit through your impersonation of the Benny Hill chase scene!

Ron
 
Ron, I tried to get the zoom right. I had the camera mounted on my case which I balanced on a coat rack on the wall, so I had to guess, and I erred on the side of conservatism. I'd rather get the whole table in than have the bottom rail/pockets chopped off. I can get much better quality (but not hi-def) with my 8mm camera. I have the video capture card set up in my computer, so it's just a matter of shooting the footage and capturing it into an AVI file. This was just something quick and dirty with my "other" movie camera.
 
just back from a week vacation and finally got a chance to see this -- thanks for posting!

wiser heads have already commented on the patterns, etc. i was struck by how much your stance, balance, and general body position reminded me of Buddy Hall. as several people pointed out, you shoot wicked fast, as we say here in New England, and as a result you sometimes come up off the shot. but then, so does Thorsten... and i wish i had your accuracy and consistency -- nice shooting!

now to tilt my head for the 55-ball run... i like the GorillaPod tripod. they're small and light enough that i leave one in my cue case all the time, and they fit neatly on the little bar-shelves in many rooms, or you can use the "bendy" feature to hook them around something on the wall, like a lamp fixture, or adjust for tilt like you had here; much less fuss than trying to lean the camera on something. they're only $15-20 on Amazon.

thanks again for posting this, was way fun to watch!
 
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