My own design of my future cue design

The Beginner

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HI guys what do you think about my design for my future custom cues ...who's the cuemaker that do you think can make this cue ? it will be 6 points and the white will be ivory? the ring will be ivory too w/ blue or green Turquoise inlays...it will be birdeyes maple forarm ...snake lizard leather...w/ ivory cap and ivory joint ...what do you think guys..need opinion pls...
 

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The Beginner said:
HI guys what do you think about my design for my future custom cues ...who's the cuemaker that do you think can make this cue ? it will be 6 points and the white will be ivory? the ring will be ivory too w/ blue or green Turquoise inlays...it will be birdeyes maple forarm ...snake lizard leather...w/ ivory cap and ivory joint ...what do you think guys..need opinion pls...

looks like a job for Bill Stroud. He does these complicated CNC stuff.
 
Bill???

Except for the fact that Bill has retired and sold all of his equipment.
So I've heard.....
Mike
 
Pancerny said:
Except for the fact that Bill has retired and sold all of his equipment.
So I've heard.....
Mike
I did hear he retired but thought he was going to hang onto his equipment for a while.
 
Pancerny said:
Except for the fact that Bill has retired and sold all of his equipment.
So I've heard.....
Mike

i hope not...some of the AZers here still waiting for their cue to be delivered..
Beginning this year he still invited me to one of his shows..
the last time i heard he injured his hand playing golf...


Bgrds
RC
 
lord_shar said:
Why not go with razor-sharp, full spliced points?

for razor sharp points i think skip is a good choice.. he's handy with the splice. But a cue of this design dun come cheap... probably set u back at least 3k...
 
titlistsucker said:
for razor sharp points i think skip is a good choice.. he's handy with the splice. But a cue of this design dun come cheap... probably set u back at least 3k...

Andy Gilbert also does great full splice razor points. His price quotes definitely surprised me given the quality of his work.
 
are those the veneer colors you want,,,because i've never seen those colors?

will there be a veneer on the short ivory points? are they as thin as you show?

are you using two different blues?

are your black veneers thinner than the other veneers?

you should try to be more accurate with your color matchups and proportions, so there are no surprises. when you contact the cuemaker of your choice, ask him to send you all his veneer sample or at least pics of them, and use those samples to alter your design. also,,,,antialias your image editor so the prongs won't look so jagged.

anything in the butt? that's a lot of busy work in the nose, if you plan to keep the butt plain and simple.

what's the color of the wrap?

how big is the eliptical inlay? if they're supposed to be about the size of your basic notched diamonds, there's a lot of stuff going on in those elipses. you might have to simplify it.

is there a black border around it?

if the inlays are going to be that complicated and that small, then i can only suggest ed prewitt. i don't know anyone who does minute work as well as him.
 
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following up on being aware of scaling dowm. i took the liberty to try and match your inlay(the red makes it easier to see),,,,and scaled it down to .6", which i think is reasonable to assume for the inlay size.

i'm sure there are a few who can do this kind of minute inlay work(ed prewitt as i mention), but my point in doing this was to show you what gets lost, based on the proportions you worked with.

what you see onscreen is approximate. all our monitors are different, so the image will look smaller or larger. i suggest you save this image, and scale it down until you measure it exactly or print it out to about .6" or .5" in height. it looks like you might have to enlarge your tourquoise, the black border is almost lost(in fact, all the black lines are really small), and the eiliptical ebony center becomes dominant! maybe too large for what you have in mind.
 

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bruin70 said:
following up on being aware of scaling dowm. i took the liberty to try and match your inlay(the red makes it easier to see),,,,and scaled it down to .6", which i think is reasonable to assume for the inlay size.

i'm sure there are a few who can do this kind of minute inlay work(ed prewitt as i mention), but my point in doing this was to show you what gets lost, based on the proportions you worked with.

what you see onscreen is approximate. all our monitors are different, so the image will look smaller or larger. i suggest you save this image, and scale it down until you measure it exactly or print it out to about .6" or .5" in height. it looks like you might have to enlarge your tourquoise, the black border is almost lost(in fact, all the black lines are really small), and the eiliptical ebony center becomes dominant! maybe too large for what you have in mind.
I dont think that is a butt inlay design I think that is a cross section view of the ringwork he is showing... read his description...

"the ring will be ivory too w/ blue or green Turquoise inlays"...

I am willing to bet the colors arent quite true to form either and will be toned down a bit with normal veneer colors... he is probably just using paintbrush and is limited in what he can do with it...
 
Addicted2CuesRU said:
I dont think that is a butt inlay design I think that is a cross section view of the ringwork he is showing... read his description...

"the ring will be ivory too w/ blue or green Turquoise inlays"...

I am willing to bet the colors arent quite true to form either and will be toned down a bit with normal veneer colors... he is probably just using paintbrush and is limited in what he can do with it...

you might be right.

shit,,,and all that work :D

hey, "the beginner",,,nevermind
 
bruin70 said:
you might be right.

shit,,,and all that work :D

hey, "the beginner",,,nevermind
That work is appreciated being that it provided me an idea once I saw it.
Keep it up and you are far from a beginner.
Appreciate the post.
 
Is this what you meant with the inlays in the rings?

I threw this together in like 2 minutes, sorry for quality ;)
 

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MacGyver said:
Is this what you meant with the inlays in the rings?

I threw this together in like 2 minutes, sorry for quality ;)
In 2 minutes?
What application did you use?
Things like this make the forum a great place to share ideas.
Very creative quick work. Thanks!
 
looks like a CAD program.

looks cool, macgyver. can you take any 2-d pattern and throw it on that 3-d cue???
 
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The Beginner said:
HI guys what do you think about my design for my future custom cues ...who's the cuemaker that do you think can make this cue ? it will be 6 points and the white will be ivory? the ring will be ivory too w/ blue or green Turquoise inlays...it will be birdeyes maple forarm ...snake lizard leather...w/ ivory cap and ivory joint ...what do you think guys..need opinion pls...

Judd Fuller, Andy Gilbert.

Fred
 
I actually used Blender, which is a 3d modelling program, which is opensource and FREE-ware, availible at www.blender.org

it is however, NOT simple and easy to use(however this application of just mapping an image onto a cynlinder is pretty easy on the scale of things, just getting to that point requires some knowledge)

HOWEVER, you can also create custom .blend interfaces, and I could set it up so that if you give it a certain image with certain dimensions, it would auto map it correctly, but you would still need to download blender, load the image and hit F12(render) key, and then save the image.

As to the actual workflow, I created a cynlinder, loop cut it(like put an extra ring) into it at each spot I wanted a material change(the inlay, the points, the wrap).

Then I assigned a new material to each section of the material, threw on the image(I took about 20 seconds to crop out the inlay and add some space at the top to ready it in blender), and then played around with size, repeat and offsets until it lined up right, then setup a camera and lights and rendered.


If interested I can provide the .blend file along with some text describing where to add images, but imho you would need knowledge of the program and wouldnt be very useful for this forumn like WEI.


HOWEVER, if *anyone* has a design and they'd like to see it on a cue, just PM me with an image or basic design and I can slap it on a cue(now that I have made the design and cut it up in blender and have lights/materials/camera all setup, it should take less than a minute of playing around with image), I can provide you with a picture of what the cue would look like.

also, sorry for hijacking thread :)
 
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