Mystery Solved!!!!!!

[8-ball Rat]

Regarding thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=24399

Just received an e-mail from Steven Janes at Joss cues. I sent him the pic of the cue in question, and a quick specs list...begging for some enlightenment regarding the cue.

He wrote back and told me that the cue WAS, in fact, a Joss cue.

Even better, turns out it was, indeed, a note regarding Nick Varner under the wrap.

Joss made some cues specifically for, and sold directly to, Mr. Varner. He, in turn, had "customers" who bought the cues directly from him. Mr. Schmit was one of these buyers, apparently.

So, bottom line, this was one of Nick Varner's personal cues. That, in and of itself, makes the cue a gem, in my opinion!!!!

Thanks a ton for all your help, guys. I'll put a picture or two on this new thread, once I get it back home (should be only another day or two!!)

Out of sheer curiosity....what, in your collective opinion, would be a good dollar value to put on this cue? I've got some insurance coverage set aside for my toys...but they want dollar amounts to associate to everything...including each cue I want covered. Any educated guesses???

Be good, ya'll...thanks a million for all your help, and shoot straight!

Mark (Rat)

 

[shoutout33]

Joss to me is one of the best high production cues companies out thier. It was my first cue. I also like the customization that they are giving people now on their website. No one else in their classifcation does this as far as I know. Yeah, you can change the wrap and colors, but you can literally build your own cue from the choices they have. That's way cool to me.

 

[cueaddicts]

Regarding thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=24399

Just received an e-mail from Steven Janes at Joss cues. I sent him the pic of the cue in question, and a quick specs list...begging for some enlightenment regarding the cue.

He wrote back and told me that the cue WAS, in fact, a Joss cue.

Even better, turns out it was, indeed, a note regarding Nick Varner under the wrap.

Joss made some cues specifically for, and sold directly to, Mr. Varner. He, in turn, had "customers" who bought the cues directly from him. Mr. Schmit was one of these buyers, apparently.

So, bottom line, this was one of Nick Varner's personal cues. That, in and of itself, makes the cue a gem, in my opinion!!!!

Thanks a ton for all your help, guys. I'll put a picture or two on this new thread, once I get it back home (should be only another day or two!!)

Out of sheer curiosity....what, in your collective opinion, would be a good dollar value to put on this cue? I've got some insurance coverage set aside for my toys...but they want dollar amounts to associate to everything...including each cue I want covered. Any educated guesses???

Be good, ya'll...thanks a million for all your help, and shoot straight!

Mark (Rat)

Mark,

If it were a cue that Nick actually used for tournament play and there was documentation as such, then it would be worth a pretty penny. However, more than likely what you have there is simply a Joss cue that Nick bought/sold at the time when he was their player representative. Joss even made a specifc model or even a line of cues for him, if I'm not mistaken.

As to value....not sure. You could try running it on ebay to get a barometer. My guess is that it isn't going to bring big bucks becuase it's more or less a 'production cue'.....maybe around $350. Hope this helps.

Sean

 

[8-ball Rat]

Nick Varner Joss cue...

Sean,

Thanks! Funny...I was thinking somewhere between 300 and 400, myself.

Not that it matters much, I suppose....at least no more than is necessary to make sure it's covered under insurance.

The history behind the cue, and (above all else) how well this cue plays is more valuable to me than any dollar value, anyway (within reason, that is).

That said, if anyone's willing to trade their Tascarella cue for it, then by all means, let's talk!!!

Be good, ya'll.

Mark (Rat)

 

[TATE]

It is very interesting and the cue actually has more historic value than monetary value but it does have a solid date and history because of the writing under the wrap.

Nick Varner at the time was actually a dealer of cues and other equipment. I spoke with Dennis Swift. Dennis is in a small town in Kentucky not too far from Owensboro. A little over 20 years ago he made himself a case to use for his cues. His friends saw it, and he made some more. Nick Varner saw them and started buying and selling everything Dennis could make. Nick basically put Dennis Swift "on the map".

So this would fit in with that. With all the people he met, he probably sold a lot of cues and this is part of the story.

Now, if you would like to enhance the value of this cue, what you might want to do is write a letter with some photos of the writing under the wrap to Nick Varner, to see if he remembers this cue and the fellow.

With proper documentation and a letter from Joss and Nick Vanrer, the cue would be worth more than the figures discussed because the tie-in with Nick Varner as the one who ordered it makes it more collectible.

Chris

 

[JimBo]

Mark,

If it were a cue that Nick actually used for tournament play and there was documentation as such, then it would be worth a pretty penny. However, more than likely what you have there is simply a Joss cue that Nick bought/sold at the time when he was their player representative. Joss even made a specifc model or even a line of cues for him, if I'm not mistaken.

As to value....not sure. You could try running it on ebay to get a barometer. My guess is that it isn't going to bring big bucks becuase it's more or less a 'production cue'.....maybe around $350. Hope this helps.

Sean

I agree with Sean, under $500 is my guess, the NV thing doesn't mean that much unless you can find a Varner collector, and you'll need some good eyes for that.

Jim