Need help, rack from last night
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wish i could draw it but i think you hit the 1 full in the face with a little high left, play it like a 4 railer but play 3 rail spped by the 8. the left engish will throw the cue ball on the long rail behind the 7 you got 2 balls working for you at least and both are very dueable. but im a goof . that would be my first option , second option woul d be cutting the 1 with high left again at pocket speed you have a chance to make it get on the 7 or make the 13 . least you have 2 2 way shots that are both dueableBugz said:
since its been establishing that i am obviosuly a blind retard. based on the inclusion of the 13 ball, assuming noone sneezes between shots... here is what i would probably play.
Bugz said:
Cool. I don't want you to think you can't post a shot here. By all means, go ahead and post away. I'd rather see threads like these than another OB-1 thread.
I do want to mention - I've seen a lot of improvement in my own game recently and when people ask how I did it, I can point to several different reasons but the one that comes to mind is this: I do little things that keep me out of trouble. I take position routes that promote sequence continuation and I recognize THOSE mistakes I make. In fact, it's become so much a part of my thought process that I immediately recognize a mistake on the 3-ball that leads to a miss 4 shots later for me AND my opponents.
I understand these type of shots are not terribly exciting or dramatic but they're valuable.
how about cutting the 7 into the side.
guess it depends on how confident you are on your long banks (for the 1 - pg 2)
guess it depends on how confident you are on your long banks (for the 1 - pg 2)
A few asses keep posting B.S. every time somone asks how to play a shot. Play better shape, look earlier in the rack etc... I would like to play them a few sets so I could remind them (ask them) why they keep running out of position.
The shot looks like a bank on the 7 with top and lots of right. If the angle isn't there, cut the 1.
The shot looks like a bank on the 7 with top and lots of right. If the angle isn't there, cut the 1.
I'm pretty sure Jude will play you some, Jason.. 
From what I hear, he plays perty darn sporty.
The fact that you think he is being an ass for encouraging a player to think more about avoiding these sorts of situations makes me want to bet on him in that matchup.
Russ
From what I hear, he plays perty darn sporty.
The fact that you think he is being an ass for encouraging a player to think more about avoiding these sorts of situations makes me want to bet on him in that matchup.
Russ
Why bother stating the obvious when they ask for advice on a specific example. They are asking how to play the shot not what went wrong and where. I watch pro players pull off the big shots more times than not!!! I think it is because they practice... maybe they make them because they are playing better shape though... Maybe they choose to take the harder shot to see how they are playing.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AAfU1GXDA2...UAnj2UbCu4bdpF4bcbJ4bdpF1kWNw4kBtD4kBtE4kBtF@silvr rcr said:
There was a time when I might feel very confident with attempting this shot, or maybe just figuring up against a wall because I can't bank worth a nickel.
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Jason Robichaud said:
Silly me... I thought the OP wanted to...."win more games".
And that is what my advice was directed at. I would still rather see the intial layout, to see what happened that caused him to miss a shot on a 7 footer. Perhaps the pattern needed a little work? If so, that is definitely something we can help the OP with!
I mean.. what's going to win more games... Finding out how to improve the 10% chance you have to win this game to a whopping 15%, or finding out how think about 8 ball differently and cut down the times you get in this predicament?
There's a saying: "Pity them.. For they don't know what they don't know."
A good player looks at this sort of situation simply... They say to themselves, "I jawed a ball, so I'm supposed to lose this game." and therefore, any chance after that is absolute gravy.
A good player looks back to the mistake they made that caused them to lose the game, and asks for help with THAT problem.
I'm just trying to help the OP become a better player, not win unwinnable positions. Once in a while I'll throw a solution out for one of these type situations.. "Just for funsies..." For the most part, I'll encourage the user to look elsewhere in his/her games for the winning formula.
Please don't take this as an insult or an attack. If a person is fat, (like me
) you tell them to eat less and exercise more. If a person is sitting at home lonely, you tell them to get out and meet people. If a person has financial problems, you tell them to spend less and save more.These are time tested principles.
If a player is losing games, you identify what caused them to lose the game. And you fix that. If they acknowledge these ideas, they improve. If they don't and they insist on learning one-off situations.. Then they improve 5% in those specific situations (that come up once in 25 games), and keep losing all the other games.
Russ
Russ
You'd be taken a chance at scratching in the side. I know i did that anyways, by banking. But such a thin cut to keep the 7 on the rail, you might scratch. If it works out then with ball in hand you will have to shoot the 7 across the side pocket with follow to get out.
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if its a bar table I'm cutting in the one ball and probably leaving myself like crap on the 7. I'll take my chances though as I don't think I'm getting back to the table if I miss, regardless of where I leave the opponent unless he is just a bad bar player.
Jason Robichaud said:
My comments were directed more toward a general theme of poor situations posted in the forum rather than this one in particular. My point was that it's more constructive discussing dubious positions and trying to regain control than discussing losing situations and trying to pull off a miracle. Solids needs a miracle and focusing on this shot as vital information toward the improvement of one's game is misleading.