Need Help with ID?
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DrClaw
The Drowning Fish
I was thinking of the old St. Moritz cue Adams did that has a lot of similarities with this one.
Oh yeah, the St. Moritz was definitely tarted up with a bunch of dots and MOP but this reverse inlay in the upper forearm is what is pushing me to Taiwan.
The Japanese aesthetic just does not cotton to frivolity like that!
But it's an interesting cue and if I had stumbled across it I would have bought it too!
DrClaw
The Drowning Fish
Yeah it looks nice!Oh yeah, the St. Moritz was definitely tarted up with a bunch of dots and MOP but this reverse inlay in the upper forearm is what is pushing me to Taiwan.
The Japanese aesthetic just does not cotton to frivolity like that!
But it's an interesting cue and if I had stumbled across it I would have bought it too!
We need to get @jayman in here. He'll know what it is.
You're right, It is not an Adam and is a China import. Crest had their brand on them at one time and probably others as well.
So very few people are aware of this, But on a very fey occasions Frank Paradise took some import cues and made nice cues out of them.
I think maybe? Joe V. may have seen one or two in his day. I mention this because that particular cue is one that had two versions. The first few were full splice in a way I've never seen before. It seems obvious that someone was just starting to produce cues and had looked at other makers work to get ideas. The first Version is easy to identify by removing the bumper if it has a cross as you would see cutting into a an old veneered forearm they were veneered in a cross pattern from the points all the way to the bumper. Not kidding!
Any back to Frank Paradise. A long since deceased friend had a cue he bought from From Frank that was one of the ones I mentioned. It had a new and improved joint, better shaft wood, #9 Cortland linen, an ivory ferule, and a different but cap. but the exact same cue that was jazzed up. I made a deal for it then sold it to a gentleman who I only know as D.C. he was working at Shakespear's Billiards in Denver Colorado at the Time. The Cortland wrap was pretty ragged and the finish was well worn, so I had it refinished by AE cues. We were all amazed at the quality and expense someone went to to build this cue. I have only seen two of the ever with this full veneered full splice butt. One being the Paradise conversion and the other on eBay that when I asked for pictures of the wood under the bumper it had the same veneered build .And then the auction ended early.
The typical version is cool looking, but very cheapo china standard issue. I would love to know more about that whole history from OMG to POS.
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Your cue looks like it's in really good condition. I always thought those were nice looking cues. For some reason most of the time when I see one it's beat to death, missing inlays and the wrap is badly stained. I don't know why it seems to be that way with that particular model but it is.
Have you popped the bumper off to see if it has the veneered handle? if it does it will look something like this where the bumper is screwed on and will continue all the way up to through the lower points.
Have you popped the bumper off to see if it has the veneered handle? if it does it will look something like this where the bumper is screwed on and will continue all the way up to through the lower points.
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