Need some help to remember the old 9-ball rules
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In the 1970's we played a game called Two Shot Roll out or Push out depending where you located in the USA. Throughout the game a player could push out anytime without fouling, and the incoming player had the choice of taking the shot or telling the player who rolled out to shoot again. If the player who rolled out was told to shoot again and missed the other player had ball in hand anywhere on the table. Scratches were ball in hand behind the line and the incoming player could tell the other player to shoot again. Other fouls were also threated the same way except the cue ball remained where it stopped. On a scratch or if a ball was jumped off the table they were spotted not dropped like today.
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> Under the MPBA rules,which pre-date Texas Express,any balls pocketed on a break that results in a foul (scratch,jumped cb/ob off table),come back up on the spot in numbered order. If the one ball is behind the head string,it also respotted. The cue ball would be "in hand" to the incoming player,but the cue ball placement would be confined to anywhere behind the head string,similar to common 8-ball. All fouls after that were traditional "in hand" rules.
One slight advantage to this format is that regardless of how many balls were made on the break,the incoming player had all 9 balls to deal with,some of which might be tied up on the spot. This meant that unlike today's 9-ball at the world-class level,a scratch on the break isn't a nearly automatic loss.
This can also be considered a serious disadvantage because it truly penalizes the incoming player for their opponent's mistake of scratching on the break.
Some players I'm told would make no effort at all to control their rock,knowing that balls would be tied up even if they scratched.
It was also fairly slow-paced,with a lot of moving and safety play,employing moves you just don't see much under any other rules. Texas Express was the next evolution. Tommy D.
One slight advantage to this format is that regardless of how many balls were made on the break,the incoming player had all 9 balls to deal with,some of which might be tied up on the spot. This meant that unlike today's 9-ball at the world-class level,a scratch on the break isn't a nearly automatic loss.
This can also be considered a serious disadvantage because it truly penalizes the incoming player for their opponent's mistake of scratching on the break.
Some players I'm told would make no effort at all to control their rock,knowing that balls would be tied up even if they scratched.
It was also fairly slow-paced,with a lot of moving and safety play,employing moves you just don't see much under any other rules. Texas Express was the next evolution. Tommy D.
So does anyone actually have a copy of the old rules that they can scanned or pm's to me? I would like to be able to have some sort of sanctioned rules to be able to prove to the youngins there are other ways to play nine ball other than Texas Express rules.
Thank you
Sorry Milos1973 to jump on your thread and ask the same question, but I am interested in doing the same thing you are so if you do get them, could you help me out also?
Thanks
Thank you
Sorry Milos1973 to jump on your thread and ask the same question, but I am interested in doing the same thing you are so if you do get them, could you help me out also?
Thanks
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