Need some help with the identification of an old Tad

manwon

manwon

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A customer brought in this old Tad cue, it was his fathers who recently passed away. His dad bought the cue new he thinks in the 1960's, and I do not know enough to know if that time frame is correct. He would also like to figure out what the cue is worth, and again I am not an expert on Tad Cues.

The cue has two shafts that are perfectly straight, along with the cues butt. Over all the cue is in great original condition down to the cues wrap which is Cortland #9 Irish linen, any help with this cue would be appreciated.

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Thanks Craig
 
Tad....

Picture of bump? Check for number after remove ruber bumper. Pin looks good. What is the thread pitch on the joint pin? Butt cap , Butt sleeve ring looks good and ring works l:)k good to me. If you find number are you remove bumper, you can call TAD and ask for info. and see what year was that cue build. Also I dont remember seeing any weight bolt under bumper for all the TAD I have seen. Hope this help you.
 
Value

In my opinion $1800-$2200 in today's market. Three Years ago, $2700-$3200.
This is just my Humble Opinion and coming from an old cue Pimp. Times are tough all around. But you never know, you may have that one person who would actually step up and pay that 3 grand when it comes to an old Tad with Provinonce.
Thank you, Greg

manwon said:
Guy's any idea what the cue is worth?

Thanks Craig
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howardthedick said:
In my opinion $1800-$2200 in today's market. Three Years ago, $2700-$3200.
This is just my Humble Opinion and coming from an old cue Pimp. Times are tough all around. But you never know, you may have that one person who would actually step up and pay that 3 grand when it comes to an old Tad with Provinonce.
Thank you, Greg
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Thank you Greg, I appreciate the information.
 
howardthedick said:
In my opinion $1800-$2200 in today's market. Three Years ago, $2700-$3200.
This is just my Humble Opinion and coming from an old cue Pimp. Times are tough all around. But you never know, you may have that one person who would actually step up and pay that 3 grand when it comes to an old Tad with Provinonce.
Thank you, Greg
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i agree, i have about 10 Tads and know the market of them(if there is a market for them) $1500-$1800, I passed on one like this but in better shape that was 2bones about 18 months ago. Tads are a tough sell now days.
 
My guess is its from the 70's, the pin looks too new for 60's era and I've handled about 3 cues from the 60's the last 6 months. The stained forearm is actually burned with a torch, which makes it more rare, they don't do too many this way due to the fact that they often warp when they torch them. Id say cue is worth up to $3000 current market should fetch at least 2200, heck i sold one from the 80s for 2400 a few months ago and this cue is much nicer. Offer it to Mamono here on the forum, he likes collecting vintage Tads.
 
Zirroe said:
My guess is its from the 70's, the pin looks too new for 60's era and I've handled about 3 cues from the 60's the last 6 months. The stained forearm is actually burned with a torch, which makes it more rare, they don't do too many this way due to the fact that they often warp when they torch them. Id say cue is worth up to $3000 current market should fetch at least 2200, heck i sold one from the 80s for 2400 a few months ago and this cue is much nicer. Offer it to Mamono here on the forum, he likes collecting vintage Tads.
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Thanks very much for the information, I learned something today I have never heard of burning the wood to stain the wood, I may try this sometime.

Thanks again I owe you one.
 
manwon said:
Thanks very much for the information, I learned something today I have never heard of burning the wood to stain the wood, I may try this sometime.

Thanks again I owe you one.
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I might visit Tad tomorrow I'll show him this thread and see what he says, if I do go.
 
Burnishing the wood

The same trick is used on furniture, except they add baby powder and burn it off to give it a nice patina. It was used on furniture to make something look older than it actually was and drive up thevalue.

Nice cue by the way. You have been posting some great pictures of some good looking cues. Thanks.
 
Zirroe said:
I might visit Tad tomorrow I'll show him this thread and see what he says, if I do go.
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I would appreciate this much, and so will the owner of the cue. The cue means a great deal to the gentleman since it was his fathers and since his father is no longer with us.

I am in your debt!!!!!!
 
mattb said:
The same trick is used on furniture, except they add baby powder and burn it off to give it a nice patina. It was used on furniture to make something look older than it actually was and drive up thevalue.

Nice cue by the way. You have been posting some great pictures of some good looking cues. Thanks.
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Thanks Matt, I have another cue that I am going to post soon, it is another Schon, the cue is a S-13 Model. I don't know for certain but I think that the S-Model cues are much rarer than the R-Models, because in 10 years this is the first one I have ever see. I really like the ring work on the cue and I think I am going to buy it, what are these models worth, the same as the R-series or Less.

Take care
 
manwon said:
A customer brought in this old Tad cue, it was his fathers who recently passed away. His dad bought the cue new he thinks in the 1960's, and I do not know enough to know if that time frame is correct. He would also like to figure out what the cue is worth, and again I am not an expert on Tad Cues.

The cue has two shafts that are perfectly straight, along with the cues butt. Over all the cue is in great original condition down to the cues wrap which is Cortland #9 Irish linen, any help with this cue would be appreciated
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It is a TAD#5 with 3/8x12 flat faced joint. There are some variations to the TAD#5 that have been seen.

BEM w/ SS 5/16x18 piloted
BEM w/ 3/8x12 flat faced
Stained BEM w/ SS 5/16x18 piloted
Stained BEM w/ 3/8x12 flat faced

The 5/16x18 piloted are more common both BEM and stained BEM, not very many of this model in 3/8x12 flat faced so it is considered a little more rare IMHO.

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FLYINGSNAIL said:
Picture of bump? Check for number after remove ruber bumper. Pin looks good. What is the thread pitch on the joint pin? Butt cap , Butt sleeve ring looks good and ring works l:)k good to me. If you find number are you remove bumper, you can call TAD and ask for info. and see what year was that cue build. Also I dont remember seeing any weight bolt under bumper for all the TAD I have seen. Hope this help you.
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Unlikely that there is a serial number under the bumper, but doesn't hurt to check anyways. If there does happen to have one, you'll get a lot more information about the cue from Fred or Tad including all the options that the customer specifically requested if there were any. Only option I can tell is the extra shaft.


JoeyInCali said:
Looks like a 3/8 Harvey Martin pin to me.
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Same pin used on the Harvey Martin tribute, per Fred, they used steel pins.


manwon said:
Guy's any idea what the cue is worth?
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You've already received a few responses about value. It looks all-original with two original shafts, TAD would normally sell his cues with one shaft. Extra shaft for that period was always a customer requested option, he would tell the customer to visit him later to purchase a 2nd shaft if needed. For this model, I believe the staining and the flat faced joint were also customer requested option. I would value this one at $2,000-$2,500.


Zirroe said:
My guess is its from the 70's, the pin looks too new for 60's era and I've handled about 3 cues from the 60's the last 6 months. The stained forearm is actually burned with a torch, which makes it more rare, they don't do too many this way due to the fact that they often warp when they torch them. Id say cue is worth up to $3000 current market should fetch at least 2200, heck i sold one from the 80s for 2400 a few months ago and this cue is much nicer. Offer it to Mamono here on the forum, he likes collecting vintage Tads.
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I would say that this cue was made between 1970-1983, closer to 1975-1983 IMHO. Thanks Zirroe for suggesting that, but I already have a fantastic TAD#5. I'm looking forward to picking up my cues from TAD today. If there's anything you want me to ask, let me know.
 
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mamono said:
It is a TAD#5 with 3/8x12 flat faced joint. There are some variations to the TAD#5 that have been seen.

BEM w/ SS 5/16x18 piloted
BEM w/ 3/8x12 flat faced
Stained BEM w/ SS 5/16x18 piloted
Stained BEM w/ 3/8x12 flat faced

The 5/16x18 piloted are more common both BEM and stained BEM, not very many of this model in 3/8x12 flat faced so it is considered a little more rare IMHO.

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Unlikely that there is a serial number under the bumper, but doesn't hurt to check anyways. If there does happen to have one, you'll get a lot more information about the cue from Fred or Tad including all the options that the customer specifically requested if there were any. Only option I can tell is the extra shaft.




Same pin used on the Harvey Martin tribute, per Fred, they used steel pins.




You've already received a few responses about value. It looks all-original with two original shafts, TAD would normally sell his cues with one shaft. Extra shaft for that period was always a customer requested option, he would tell the customer to visit him later to purchase a 2nd shaft if needed. For this model, I believe the staining and the flat faced joint were also customer requested option. I would value this one at $2,000-$2,500.




I would say that this cue was made between 1970-1983, closer to 1975-1983 IMHO. Thanks Zirroe for suggesting that, but I already have a fantastic TAD#5. I'm looking forward to picking up my cues from TAD today. If there's anything you want me to ask, let me know.
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Wow dude you are a wealth of information about Tad Cues, I am grateful for your help and I owe you one buddy.

Thanks very much.
 
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