New 45 Point Blue Grass For Sale

:eek: :eek: :eek: Thats one hell of a cue!!! I wish my lotto numbers would come up soon!!!:(
 
bushwhacker said:
Brand New Richard Harris Cue. 45 Points

Serial # RH00-2006
Woods - Bocote/Redheart/Curly Maple/Thuya Burl (15 points in forearm - 30 points below wrap)
Rings - Maple/Redheart
Shafts (2) - 13mm
Ferrules - Ivory
Tips - Talisman Pro (M)
Weight - 19.2 oz.
Length - 58"
Wrap - Irish Linen
Full set of Matching joint protectors
Thanks for looking, Price $2995.
Gary email bushwhacker@adelphia.net

Beautiful cue but maybe I'm missing something. Doesn't that cue have 5 points with 3 veneers above the wrap and 10 points with 3 veneers below?

George
 
Bushwhacker is correct. Those are not veneers, but recut points. Because of this, it is a 45 point cue. He should know since he is a dealer for Richard.
 
Dear Lord

bushwhacker said:
Brand New Richard Harris Cue. 45 Points

Serial # RH00-2006
Woods - Bocote/Redheart/Curly Maple/Thuya Burl (15 points in forearm - 30 points below wrap)
Rings - Maple/Redheart
Shafts (2) - 13mm
Ferrules - Ivory
Tips - Talisman Pro (M)
Weight - 19.2 oz.
Length - 58"
Wrap - Irish Linen
Full set of Matching joint protectors
Thanks for looking, Price $2995.
Gary email bushwhacker@adelphia.net


That is one pretty cue. I love the color red.
 
George said:
Beautiful cue but maybe I'm missing something. Doesn't that cue have 5 points with 3 veneers above the wrap and 10 points with 3 veneers below?

George

You're not missing anything, I also find that discription funny. Mike Bender was the first (as far as I know) to discribe cues that way. To me it's not accurate, but it seems to be how they want to do it so be it.

Jim
 
12 Points?

JimBo said:
You're not missing anything, I also find that discription funny. Mike Bender was the first (as far as I know) to discribe cues that way. To me it's not accurate, but it seems to be how they want to do it so be it.

Jim

So does that mean that my Bluegrass would be described as 12 points, 6 ebony recut with bloodwood?
 
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JimBo said:
You're not missing anything, I also find that discription funny. Mike Bender was the first (as far as I know) to discribe cues that way. To me it's not accurate, but it seems to be how they want to do it so be it.

Jim

It's a matter of opinion, but I believe the description to be accurate. Here's why: I had a 4-point cue made by "Uncle Larry" which consisted of 6 recut points making up each of the "4-points", thus making it a 24-point cue. I showed it to Ernie Martinez and he said it would take him the same amount of work to make each individual point as it would to make a standard point so he would also consider it a 24-point cue, too. At that time (about 1 1/2 years ago) Ernie said he wouldn't begin to make one like it for less than $2500 because of the work invloved.

Gary, that's a beautiful cue price very fairly. Good luck with it.

JMO,
Dave
 
12squared said:
It's a matter of opinion, but I believe the description to be accurate. Here's why: I had a 4-point cue made by "Uncle Larry" which consisted of 6 recut points making up each of the "4-points", thus making it a 24-point cue. I showed it to Ernie Martinez and he said it would take him the same amount of work to make each individual point as it would to make a standard point so he would also consider it a 24-point cue, too. At that time (about 1 1/2 years ago) Ernie said he wouldn't begin to make one like it for less than $2500 because of the work invloved.

Gary, that's a beautiful cue price very fairly. Good luck with it.

JMO,
Dave
What does the amount of work required, have to do with counting the number of points in a cue?
 
Some people count recut points inside a point as a point and thus the numbers goes up
 
gutshot said:
Bushwhacker is correct. Those are not veneers, but recut points. Because of this, it is a 45 point cue. He should know since he is a dealer for Richard.

I've been giving this some thought and I disagree. A point is a point and a veneer is a veneer. Doing recuts is another way of doing a veneer IMHO. This is not a knock on that cue.......I think it's absolutely beautiful and I appreciate the work that went into it but I would describe them as recut veneers.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

George
 
I think the term "recut veneer" is an oxymoron. I'm no cuemaker, but I don't think cuemakers recut veneers. They are all glued together and inlaid in at the same time. Yes there is some science to getting the veneer pocket right and the veneers glued together right to make it look good, but laying a point in and cutting it out to place another point in takes much longer, hence the 45 point terminology. Theoretically, it would take the same time to make a cue with 18 points (with no veneers or recuts) as one with 6 points and 3 recut points in each point. I may be wrong. Maybe I'll ask Richard more tomorrow about it, but I do know for a fact that he does not call them veneers!:)

They are not the same
George said:
I've been giving this some thought and I disagree. A point is a point and a veneer is a veneer. Doing recuts is another way of doing a veneer IMHO. This is not a knock on that cue.......I think it's absolutely beautiful and I appreciate the work that went into it but I would describe them as recut veneers.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

George
 
Hmmm, so if the end result is that it looks like a point with veneers, but costs a sh*t load more, Why would I want to pay for a more expensive way to the same end result? looks like a cue with point and veneers to me. I think its a way to get around the difficulty of executing sharp even points with veneers.Is this done with a cnc? cnc cues just dont do much for me as far as colectability goes, I use shon as a perfect example of that.
 
bushwhacker said:
Your not comparing Schon's to Blue Grass cues are you?

God! I hope he's not! Bluegrass cues are among the best players out there and RIchard has definitely carved a niche for himself as one of the elite. His designs are unique and his craftsmanship is excellent.
 
one small thing about recuts - you can't see a line where the veneers meet, cause there ain't one, both sides are the same piece of wood. that's gotta be worth something, right?

-s
 
I have a Bender with 40 recut points, and I love the look, but it certainly adds to the price and some may not think it's worth the money as compared to veneers (though I do).
 
recuts

Personally if I am selling a cue, I make sure and differentiate between recuts and veneers, but dont count it as an extra point. I understand the amount of work, and why they are called points, I just don't do it. Hard to explain to the average buyer, and the explanation of what a recut is, sends him away a better educated buyer. Just my opinion.
 
Hi

This cue is awesome regardless of the count. However, it has nice veneers on the points. Thats it. The purple heart cue above would only be considered a recut point if the black on the outside of the purpleheart is solid and not had seem lines. You have a ver nice Bluegrass. IMO Thanx Aaron 815-243-1101:D
 
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