New Cues For sale, BCMs, Cokers, SouthWest....

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dooziexx

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Got some new cues in:
2 Brand New Cokers Cues
2 Brand New Bryan Mordt (BCM) Cues
Mint Condition 1998 SouthWest with Stacked leather wrap.
You can view them at http://www.erikleecues.com/index.html under the New Cues page.

Cues coming in the next few weeks:
James White, Paul Mottey, Mike Bender & BlueGrass (Richard Harris).

Email me at dooziexx@yahoo.com if you have questions.
Thanks,
Erik
 
dooziexx said:
Got some new cues in:
2 Brand New Cokers Cues
2 Brand New Bryan Mordt (BCM) Cues
Mint Condition 1998 SouthWest with Stacked leather wrap.
You can view them at http://www.erikleecues.com/index.html under the New Cues page.

Cues coming in the next few weeks:
James White, Paul Mottey, Mike Bender & BlueGrass (Richard Harris).

Email me at dooziexx@yahoo.com if you have questions.
Thanks,
Erik
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You know it is a shame, I need another cue, and I would by another one from erik, but he stiffed me on the last cue I bought from him. It is a shame too, cause I thought he was a great guy and we could have been friends.
 
prewarhero said:
You know it is a shame, I need another cue, and I would by another one from erik, but he stiffed me on the last cue I bought from him. It is a shame too, cause I thought he was a great guy and we could have been friends.
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Stiffed you? How so?
 
prewarhero said:
You know it is a shame, I need another cue, and I would by another one from erik, but he stiffed me on the last cue I bought from him. It is a shame too, cause I thought he was a great guy and we could have been friends.
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If you have to post this on a public forum then you must explain what happened, and Eric can respond in kind. This is the first time I've read anything negative about Eric, btw, and others with positive experiences should chime in as well.

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
If you have to post this on a public forum then you must explain what happened, and Eric can respond in kind. This is the first time I've read anything negative about Eric, btw, and others with positive experiences should chime in as well.

-Roger
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My sentiments exactly. It's not right to come into a public forum like this, make a statement like that and then just bail out.
 
prewarhero said:
You know it is a shame, I need another cue, and I would by another one from erik, but he stiffed me on the last cue I bought from him. It is a shame too, cause I thought he was a great guy and we could have been friends.
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Hey Jordan,
Tell me how I stiffed you... I drove 50 miles to Chris's Billiards to let you try out my cues. Then later I invited you to my house to try out those Cokers that I have. I let you try the cue out before you bought it. You said you like the hit and feel of it. I disclosed to you that one shaft has a very slight wobble and discounted the cue even further. You bought the cue and paid me cash. Few days later you emailed me a wanted a refund coz the cue is not working for you. Im sorry but after you chalked both shafts and played with the cue for days, you cant return it. The cue you bought was not a used cue in the first place. Its was a brand new cue. You think I can return the cue is a used state to my supplier?? Yeah right.

And yes, you offered to take aloss on the cue like $50. But there was no way I could move a used Coker for $550 when brand new ones are selling from $600 to $650. You ended up selling the cue on ebay and got about $450-$500 for it and thats about right for a used Coker. So you wanted me to take the cue back for $550 and then you take a $50 loss. But I would have to take a $100-$150 loss on the cue when I sell it again as used?? I only made $50 profit when I sold it new to you so I would have been $50-$100 in the red. I sell cues to make a little money on the side. Im not doing it to take a loss.....

I have a huge list of customers that have bought cues from me and all of them are 100% satisfied minus you. I give good deals to all of them. Im not out to rob them of their money by charging ungodly amounts for my cues. I make a little on the side and thats enough for me. I dont take advantage of my customers and I dont want to be taken advantage of either. I have alot people email me constantly with cue related questions. I answer all of them promptly and as detailed as I can. Some end up buying from me and some dont but I still encourage them to ask me if they have questions. I guess theres always one rotten apple floating around....

Point is, you tried out the cue in my house but you never gave yourself enough time to adjust to the cue. You were shooting with a mottey and you were making the switch to a Coker which is alot stiffer/harder cue than your Mottey.
-Erik
 
I sold a Nitti cue to Erik last year, and had NO problems, whatsoever. Paypal deposit, cue shipped, both parties happy. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a cue from him, especially if he'll give me half off one of those pretty southwests he's got............hint, hint.

Hope you're doing well Erik.

Peace
~DC
 
crawdaddio said:
I sold a Nitti cue to Erik last year, and had NO problems, whatsoever. Paypal deposit, cue shipped, both parties happy. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a cue from him, especially if he'll give me half off one of those pretty southwests he's got............hint, hint.

Hope you're doing well Erik.

Peace
~DC
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I bought a case off of him and the transaction went smooth as silk. I would not hesitate to puchase from Erik again!
 
Sounds like Erik went out of his way to complete the deal on his behalf which is how Erik always is. I've traded cues and cue cases with Erik before and have never had a problem. I always enjoy chatting with Erik via email about cues and cue collecting. Once, Erik sent me a cue before I sent out payment! He loves cue collecting and the game of pool and I doubt Erik will do anything foolish to harm his passion for the game and hobby.
 
We need to hear from Jordan again. He came in here and made a pretty general accusation and hasn't been back yet. This accusation needs some supportive information from him. Erik has been here and given his side of the story, and it sounds plausible to me...plus he already has some supporters here.

We don't need or want a flame-war, just a non-emotional statement of facts...assuming there are some.

Jordan, if it went down as Erik says, I don't see where you have a complaint. If that's the case, then it was really unfair of you to come in here and make a statement like you made. If it didn't go down that way, let hear your side of it. You really can't just come in and start making that kind of allegations and then just bail out. Well, you can I guess...but it doesn't do much for your credibility.
 
I will most certainly qualify what I had said.

Most of what erik said was true, execpt for a few minor details, that are important. When I tried the cue, I did not try the wobbled shaft. Second, As most of us know, that a slight wobble is fine in a cue. However, it was not a wobble from a traditional slight warp, but a major defect in the construction of the shaft. Even though the wobble was slight it was still a very critical defect. How do I know this.
I Showed the cue to a very well known chicago cue maker that hangs out at chris' billiards. I don't think I need to mention his name, but Erik does know of him. This cue maker pointed out the problem and said it was a defect. I then called COker himself. I told me that the defect was possible but the only person who bought the cue from him could return it. I then contacted erik.
WE AGREED on a settlement price for him to take the cue back. We tried to arrange a time for me to drive back to his house to make a switch. He kept putting it off. Then for three weeks straight he would not return my calls or emails what so ever.
How I got stiffed. Well, I guess I got stiffed in either of a couple of ways. One, I was sold a defective cue (not with just a slight wobble) and he did not stand behind is merchandise. Or two, he did not keep his end of the deal after we agreed to on me taking a loss on the cue. I had to end up selling it with one shaft and sold it for 400.00 bucks, since he ignored by calls or emails.
I was civil and congenial (sp?) the entire time. I did not want to start a whole big fiasco with this but I do feel I was wronged.
I am sure many of you have had fine dealing with erik, that is why I prefaced what I said before, with , " he seemed like a nice guy, and that it was a shame". You can make up your own mind on the situation.
Jordan
 
I am not 100 percent sure on the technical lingo on it or its construction, but it had something to do with the shafts construction where it was heavier to one side of the shaft (left to right) then the other. Perhaps more wood was shaved off from one side or the other. The result was not proper contact with the cue ball. I wrote down what was said to be by the cue maker and then cocker confirmed it has a possible defect.
that was all I remember.
Jordan
 
prewarhero said:
I will most certainly qualify what I had said.

Most of what erik said was true, execpt for a few minor details, that are important. When I tried the cue, I did not try the wobbled shaft. Second, As most of us know, that a slight wobble is fine in a cue. However, it was not a wobble from a traditional slight warp, but a major defect in the construction of the shaft. Even though the wobble was slight it was still a very critical defect. How do I know this.
I Showed the cue to a very well known chicago cue maker that hangs out at chris' billiards. I don't think I need to mention his name, but Erik does know of him. This cue maker pointed out the problem and said it was a defect. I then called COker himself. I told me that the defect was possible but the only person who bought the cue from him could return it. I then contacted erik.
WE AGREED on a settlement price for him to take the cue back. We tried to arrange a time for me to drive back to his house to make a switch. He kept putting it off. Then for three weeks straight he would not return my calls or emails what so ever.
How I got stiffed. Well, I guess I got stiffed in either of a couple of ways. One, I was sold a defective cue (not with just a slight wobble) and he did not stand behind is merchandise. Or two, he did not keep his end of the deal after we agreed to on me taking a loss on the cue. I had to end up selling it with one shaft and sold it for 400.00 bucks, since he ignored by calls or emails.
I was civil and congenial (sp?) the entire time. I did not want to start a whole big fiasco with this but I do feel I was wronged.
I am sure many of you have had fine dealing with erik, that is why I prefaced what I said before, with , " he seemed like a nice guy, and that it was a shame". You can make up your own mind on the situation.
Jordan
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Well some of this new details are news to me:
1) You never told me that you contacted Tom himself about it
2) Since you never told me you did (1), I guess I would not have known what Tom told you til today.

As I recalled, for 3 weeks straight we couldnt get together because I was busy and you were busy too, travelling to Iowa for something or you didnt have a ride to my house. I recalled those conversations/emails. And finally one day, the cue was on ebay and that too, I recalled you sold it with both shafts not one like you mentioned above.

Tom Coker should be blamed for not standing behind his product. That crap "the only person who bought the cue from him could return it." Now thats just plain BS from Coker. I find it hard to believe that a well-known cue maker would say that. I bought that cue from a dealer who got it from another dealer. Who know how many times that cue has changed hands. If I bought a SW from Joe Blow and there was a defect, you bet your ass I can send that cue back to Laurie Franklin and she'll fix it. Whether if she'll charge you or not, thats a different story but she'll fix it.

Bottom line, you tried out the cue and you liked it. I didnt force you to buy the cue. I told you everything up front about it. Few days later you emailed me complaining how bad the deflection was on the cue and how bad your are missing shots with english. Well, Jordan, heres a little news for you. You wanna play with a stiff/hard hitting cue, get use to the deflection. Dont like deflection, then go with a Predator...
 
Hi Erik!

I am currently in the market for a new cue, well my first large (to me) purchase cue.

I was looking at buying a viking with an extra predator 314 shaft, as well as a new case from another merchant. However, looking along your website, I thought I would ask for suggestions from you from your stock.

I'd like to spend 500 - 600 dollars on a cue and case. I would love for you to suggest a couple of cues from your stock in that range.

You can contact me at asaintlyone@comcast.net.

Thanks!

--Saint
 
Saint said:
Hi Erik!

I am currently in the market for a new cue, well my first large (to me) purchase cue.

I was looking at buying a viking with an extra predator 314 shaft, as well as a new case from another merchant. However, looking along your website, I thought I would ask for suggestions from you from your stock.

I'd like to spend 500 - 600 dollars on a cue and case. I would love for you to suggest a couple of cues from your stock in that range.

You can contact me at asaintlyone@comcast.net.

Thanks!

--Saint
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Hi Saint,
Well if you ask me, strictly my opinon only, the best production cue out there is a Schon. For approx. $600, I can hook you up with a STL3 or 4 with a pred 314 shaft and on one of those 3x5 cases that I have. I can ship it for free if you are in the US and throw in a 3 piece set of joint protectors for free. So thats roughly a $1000 package that I can move for approx $600.

The best advice that I can give you since this is your first major purchase is to try out as many cues as you can before settling down on one. You have to find one that 'fits' your game. Once you have norrowed your selection, contact me and I can give you some pricing info.

What I dont have on my website, I can easily order for you and still heavily discount them. I have all the contacts to get Vikings, Meuccis, Joss, Schons, Predators, McDermotts etc as far as production cues goes. As for custom cues, what I have on my site is what I have.

If you want to discuss this further, email me at dooziexx@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Erik
 
oh man, erik
That is a bit much. First of all, Coker said he could not take it back from me for the EXACT same reasons you mentioned. He said the cue could have changed hands several times and he has no contol over what happens to his cues once they leave the shop and change hands. He said if the orignal purchaser or someone he has a direct relationship with sold the cue, and there was a problem he would take it back. He told me to contact the person I bought it from. That was YOU!!!!

Second, I offered many times to come by your place. Remember your house is on the hay to and from Iowa. I even offered to leave it with your wife if you would leave a check. You said no. You then 100 percent stopped answering my calls and emails. Plain and simple. You know exactly what you did.

Third, I understand deflection erik. I have owned may cues. This was not a deflection problem, This was a defect.

Fourth I sold the cue on ebay (after you stoped returning my calls) I also explained the shaft problem to the buyer and he was fine with his purchase.

I don't have time to, nor do I care to debate this. The cue is gone. I took a loss on it. You acted in a way that I would not have and in a way that I would not want to do business with again. The transaction sucked anyway you look at it. If others want to deal with you thats thier choice. I think what bothers me th emost is you refuse to take responsibility for your actions. I would expect this from a kid but I didn't expect this from you.
 
prewarhero said:
oh man, erik
That is a bit much. First of all, Coker said he could not take it back from me for the EXACT same reasons you mentioned. He said the cue could have changed hands several times and he has no contol over what happens to his cues once they leave the shop and change hands. He said if the orignal purchaser or someone he has a direct relationship with sold the cue, and there was a problem he would take it back. He told me to contact the person I bought it from. That was YOU!!!!

Second, I offered many times to come by your place. Remember your house is on the hay to and from Iowa. I even offered to leave it with your wife if you would leave a check. You said no. You then 100 percent stopped answering my calls and emails. Plain and simple. You know exactly what you did.

Third, I understand deflection erik. I have owned may cues. This was not a deflection problem, This was a defect.

Fourth I sold the cue on ebay (after you stoped returning my calls) I also explained the shaft problem to the buyer and he was fine with his purchase.

I don't have time to, nor do I care to debate this. The cue is gone. I took a loss on it. You acted in a way that I would not have and in a way that I would not want to do business with again. The transaction sucked anyway you look at it. If others want to deal with you thats thier choice. I think what bothers me th emost is you refuse to take responsibility for your actions. I would expect this from a kid but I didn't expect this from you.
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IMO, since you bought the cue at a discounted price because of the defect you had no right to expect the maker or the seller to replace the shaft or take the cue back at a loss to them. I'm sure Coker would have fixed the shaft or made you a new one, but of course he's not going to replace, free of charge, a shaft that has been "around" as much as this one.
 
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