Why isn't anybody in this thread referring to the older version of the Olhausen table as the Champion Pro table?
Wasn't that what it was officially called?
Wasn't that what it was officially called?
New Olhausen tournament model..................
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Plenty of people hate how diamond pockets play. Rodney Morris being an elite pro that comes to mind. If olhausen pockets are “incorrect” then Rasson pockets are also incorrect.
Last I read Rasson pockets are the same geometry as the Diamond or close to but the Diamond has a deeper shelf which can hang more balls. The geometry of the Olhausens are off .
My guess is Olhausen has been completely out of the commercial and tournament space longer than Brunswick has, and no one even knew/remembered what they were called other than "Olhausen rattle tables".
Grand Champion is the name of the Tournament Pro predecessor.
Tons? Ok sure.
When I started playing about 15 years ago, I bought a Olhausen table. It was one of their furniture tables. The wife liked how it looked in the house, and at first, I felt it played OK. However, as I began to improve, I began to notice issues that caused me to question exactly how should a table play, and what was considered "normal" or "ideal". Reading prior comments it is obvious that what is normal, ideal, or correct, is personal preference. Especially when it comes to which balls should and shouldn't be accepted.
In my case, thinking about the construction of a table, it occurred to me that the contribution of the slate is pretty much the same for most decent tables and you can put on whatever cloth you prefer. So it came down to well supported/stable slate(s), rails with the correct geometry/appropriate cushions, and of course pocket angles. Things like flush pockets certainly add to playability. Colors, style, etc, don't affect how it plays and are secondary.
My final straw with the Olhausen came when I was kneeling next to the long rail, arms resting on the rail. I bounced a ball off the opposite rail and felt the entire table move. I gave the table away and got something that met my criteria. A frame that felt rock solid, correctly calibrated and solidly mounted rails, with properly matched cushions, heights, pocket geometry, as well as aesthetics. I don't see ever outgrowing my table again.
I do like the looks of the new Olhausen. I hope it plays much better than my old table, as well as many others on which I've played.
In my case, thinking about the construction of a table, it occurred to me that the contribution of the slate is pretty much the same for most decent tables and you can put on whatever cloth you prefer. So it came down to well supported/stable slate(s), rails with the correct geometry/appropriate cushions, and of course pocket angles. Things like flush pockets certainly add to playability. Colors, style, etc, don't affect how it plays and are secondary.
My final straw with the Olhausen came when I was kneeling next to the long rail, arms resting on the rail. I bounced a ball off the opposite rail and felt the entire table move. I gave the table away and got something that met my criteria. A frame that felt rock solid, correctly calibrated and solidly mounted rails, with properly matched cushions, heights, pocket geometry, as well as aesthetics. I don't see ever outgrowing my table again.
I do like the looks of the new Olhausen. I hope it plays much better than my old table, as well as many others on which I've played.
I think in the late 1990s it was actually just the Champion Pro table. I could be mistaken.
Price is in line. IMO the 7’ should have been made 40x80 play area like Diamond, Valley, Rasson, and Global/Brunswick.