New Tip: Leaving the last layer of old tip

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Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
 
Rafachauer1990 said:
Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
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I suppose you could, but you have to make sure that the part that remains on the ferrule is absolutely flat before putting the new tip over it.
 
Or just skim the ferrule to get the last bit of tip off and install a pad before the new tip. In that way you could do a few tip changes down the road without cutting more into the ferrule.
Take my suggestion with a grain of salt though as I'm not a professional cuemaker, although i have never had a properly installed by me tip come off.
I feel the most important is fresh glue and a flat surface.
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Rafachauer1990 said:
Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
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Why?

Do you think you have discovered something new and better that has not been observed and adopted yet, during millions of tip installs?

You haven't. In fact, it is a bad idea!
 
So the last bit of the old tip is like a tip pad for the new one? I can dig it, but will it be flush?

Just cut the dag-gone thing all the way off and clean it up nice. You don’t want to glue a new tip to the tattered remains of the old one do you, whereby adding a wall off crap to numb your feel?

Do the best you can and don’t half-ass it.
 
muskyed said:
Or just skim the ferrule to get the last bit of tip off and install a pad before the new tip. In that way you could do a few tip changes down the road without cutting more into the ferrule.
Take my suggestion with a grain of salt though as I'm not a professional cuemaker, although i have never had a properly installed by me tip come off.
I feel the most important is fresh glue and a flat surface.View attachment 722949
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but this is also just leather right? Would it not be per definition another "layered" tip if this is used as first layer?
 
You can install the new tip on the last layer, But their are a few things of concern. The old tip needs to be perfectly flat. I would feel that your probably going to have the new tip fall off.
 
Zerksies said:
You can install the new tip on the last layer, But their are a few things of concern. The old tip needs to be perfectly flat. I would feel that your probably going to have the new tip fall off.
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You see, the matter at hand is a perfect exampleof what is wrong with current America.

People won't take something proven and basic as fact until they try their own way and then know what was already known.

Sticking things together works best with clean surfaces that maximize contact area between the two.

This is a commonly known fact.
 
Black-Balled said:
You see, the matter at hand is a perfect exampleof what is wrong with current America.

People won't take something proven and basic as fact until they try their own way and then know what was already known.

Sticking things together works best with clean surfaces that maximize contact area between the two.

This is a commonly known fact.
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I think the tip is going to eventually fall off. Changing a tip really isn't all that complicated.
 
Rafachauer1990 said:
Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
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I've done it with a 314 I had because I didn't want to take any material off the ferrule, seemed to work fine, tip stayed on.
 
I have left the clear layer from kamui tips and glued the new tip on top of it. Why you wouldn't want to touch the ferule is beyond me though. Most clean up with .005" removed max.
 
Is this on a carbon shaft? I think you can still take it down to the carbon, just go slowly.
On standard ferrules, take it down to the white material, won't hurt a thing.
 
Rafachauer1990 said:
Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
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If you’re asking this I’m guessing you don’t have the tools and experience to find much difference if you go this way.

You’re still going to have to trim the sides of the new tip, which in its own way is about as tricky as squaring a ferrule. Soooo, my suggestion is to bite the bullet and pay whatever your local cue mechanic is charging or better yet invest in a few tools so that you can do it yourself (experiment on a house cue first, lol).

Ions ago, when I was a baby pool player, the houseman at my room, Rico Sanchez, took me aside and sternly told me, “Every pool player should know how to change their own tip.” And he showed me a very primitive way to do it with a utility knife, some 600 grit sandpaper, and some Tweetens. Nowadays there are plenty of videos online you can watch that show more sophisticated ways of doing it yourself.

Good luck.

Lou Figueroa
 
Rafachauer1990 said:
Dear all,

I want to install a new tip but I do not want to touch the ferrule. Can I leave the last layer of my old tip and install the new tip on top of it?

Since the tips are layered anyway, I guess this should in theory work, right?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards
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Bad idea.
 
Having a flat clean face to glue a new tip on is key. Why you wouldn't want to remove the old tip entirely is beyond me. Any compentent cue maker or cue repair guy will be able to install a new tip without removing any of the ferrule. If this is something you're worried about, why not install a pad between the ferrule and the tip.
 
Personally, I'm a believer in the concept of specialization of labor. I'm a network engineer, so I'm pretty good at fixing computers but terrible at just about everything else. To get around this, I exchange my labor for money which I then trade to someone who knows what they're doing.
 
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