Badpenguin
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Huh? There may be 10 "influencers" in pool altogether, if that many. That is, if you are referring to social media "influencers" here. Not a factor in 95% of areas that have more than one league.
No bias APA vs BCA
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There are influencers on a different scale in every pool community--often but not always the stronger players. When it comes to how do "we" feel about handicaps, about 7-foot tables, about leagues, about that new cloth, about that tip, about wearing a glove, about carbon fiber shafts, about Fargo Ratings..., many tend to look to the view of one or a few people and adopt that viewpoint as their own.
I've played my share of league pool. The level of nittiness is hard to imagine unless you've sweated it up close. I like the 'idea' of league pool but in reality its a joke.Oddly, both likely feel the same way about you.
There is "bias" in everything... I don't think the OP was trying to play word salad, but that phrase sets it up, I guess.
Perhaps a better phrase would be " as objectively as possible, thoughts on APA vs BCA"
Of course, many of us have watched similar threads and comments about league, and APA, go sideways, so we know what to expect when the question is raised, and perhaps the OP wasn't aware of how this forum would react.
Without opening up a can of worms, I'm pretty sure that bringing the total points allowed up to more easily accommodate 9's would throw the whole thing out of balance. I expect they have plenty of data to base their decision on. I agree, it's tough to manage a team with a 9. We have one or two who will play in our league, when someone can put together a team that can allow for it. Those guys are fun to watch, and play. I almost beat one once or twice, got within a few points....moral victories, sigh.
You could be right. The reasoning I was given by our APA operator was that there are less then 2% of players in the apa that our 9
s. (Seems low to me ) so it’s not worth changing the structure. Either way it’s to hard to keep a team together and I really enjoyed the challenge of running down big spots playing 9 ball.
Badpenguin
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Just an FYI, when someone says "influencer" nowadays, they are most often referring specifically to instagram/tiktok/youtube/X/facebook users with lots of followers.
I seem to recall seeing a breakdown by Skill Level somewhere, and I'm not sure that 9's were even 2%. But that does seem to be in the ballpark.
The key to having a 9 on your team is to have a 1, or a 2 that is really there for the social aspect.. 2's have a pesky tendency to get bumped to a 3, if they pay attention at all. (Many don't tho)
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Coos Cues
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When I hear that the word "loser" comes to mind. Get an Fing job.
The key to having an SL-9 is to have that person's SL-2 spouse also on the team, who really has no desire to improve and it's just husband/wife social night.
In my area 9's 1.5%. 1's 3.6%. Those are active 9's though. If it was easier we'd probably have more 9's. But you don't need a 1 or even a 2 to play as a 9. 9 4 4 3 3 is 23.
True. You need 2’s or 3’s that Our good enough to win but not good enough to move up.. or are good at sandbagging which I would never tell or want them to do. I want you to play your best and get better.
ok you need 4’s and 3’s and at least in my league they are in short supply and tend to move up. Your always on the search For new players to keep the team together.
Atorontopoolplayer
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Tend to agree with the folks saying it's tough to keep a team as a 9. I do not think I'll continue in CPA much longer once my current team's develop ranking issues. The constant recruiting of players is very frustrating and having to leave teams of friends, or remove people from your team who you like but rankings can't accommodate is awful
No shit. Agree 100%. If someone is basing their life choices/decisions on what some internet jerkoff spews they need to have their dome examined. That includes anything said on here by anybody. We try to help other players when/if possible but you still have to make your own way.
"Influencers" have been around since the beginning of time. They were previously (and still are) called "spokespeople". Their job is to build a reputation and try to use that reputation to influence people to buy stuff, and the companies who pay them are paying for endorsements. Tiger Woods made most of his fortune as an influencer (he didn't really like Nike), Patrick Mahomes is using it to circumvent the salary cap so he can get better players around him. He's taking it one step further, by getting endorsement deals for others. I don't buy insurance because Patrick Mahomes endorses it, but some people must, so it's worth it to State Farm to pay Mahomes, Reid, and Kelsey. This is no different, companies pick someone who appeals to their target audience.
I agree with "since the beginning of time" but not the sales aspect, at least not for the way Mike Page used the term. I'm pretty sure he used the term to mean, "a person in the room who the others look up to and listen to and respect his opinion." In the particular case of a league doing well, if Willie is constantly cutting the league down and saying the LO is a thief and the players are all sandbaggers, then the league will not do as well as if Willie tells the new players that the league will give them good competition and improve their game. What Mike said was:
Coos Cues
Coos Cues
The word has gotten loose since the internet came about. Influencers have about as much credibility/value now days as socialites. Whatever purpose they serve for humanity.
Badpenguin
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Coos Cues
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And people's daughters from all over get naked to get paid. The world is a crazy place.