Non-low deflection carbon shaft maker?

skor said:
I'm not sure that you've tested here the cues but rather the tips.
To messure the shafts, they should be mounted with the same tip that is shaped the same and to the same hight. and I would do it without the butt or use the same butt.
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Well, yes, the entire cues were tested. But that's what you're really interested in. The bounce height (percentage) will tell you what fraction of the energy will be transferred to the cue ball.

Break cues have very hard tips because it turns out that hard tips lose less energy during the collision so more energy gets into the cue ball. It seems that something like a superball could be even better, but that has never worked out.

For the no-bounce shaft, I wonder how it would test on the cue stick in the bounce test. To test it with shots on the table, I think two comparison shots against a similar standard cue would be useful:
  1. straight up and down the table for distance (or a break shot with a speed measurement of some kind)
  2. shooting straight up the center of the table to see how large an angle you can get off the end rail with maximum side spin
I think the bounce test with a full cue will give some bounce with the no-bounce shaft.

This is mostly unrelated to the OP's question, and if he wants to test cues, the bounce test with the full cue or a break speed measurement is the way to go. A factor that the bounce test does not measure is whether the balance of the weight in the cue suits the player.
 
A little closer to the original question: Good CF 'play' shafts should have a wall thickness at 0.8 to 1.0mm. An 11.8mm CF shaft with 0.8mm wall, empty 8 to 10 inches behind the tip, can yield crazy low deflection, but so can a well made maple shaft in the same diameter, with a long 'pro' taper - so it can get 'whippy'. The CF break/jump shaft blanks that I finish for people are 1.2-1.3mm wall thickness and they are NOT low deflection. I always recommend brown linen phenolic as a break/jump tip and won't say that a Samsara break/jump tip is a bad choice, but it's certainly more expensive.
 
The Bull Carbon CF Shaft has 1mm walls. Point being the fact that they said it in the description must mean most CF walls are less than 1mm.
 
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