OB-1 Shaft Owners

Flex said:
Who the hell cares? I pot more balls with the OB-1...
Then that's a good thing for you. I have no problems with anyone using OBs, or Preds, or Black Dots, or Mooris, or Kamuis, or whatever the latest and greatest is. It's great for the industry. Golf club manufacturers sell hype every year. "This is our hotest driver yet....." is the tag line every year at TaylorMade. Same with the laminated shaft market.

I'm going to market my new line of shafts next year. They're standard one piece maple shafts. When people ask me about cueball deflection, I will tell them these are the latest design in shafts. They are the Mosconi shaft. When people ask me why I call them that, I will let them know what Willie's belief on side english was. "If you can't run 90% of your racks with no side english, you aren't ready to use it".
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
Then that's a good thing for you. I have no problems with anyone using OBs, or Preds, or Black Dots, or Mooris, or Kamuis, or whatever the latest and greatest is. It's great for the industry. Golf club manufacturers sell hype every year. "This is our hotest driver yet....." is the tag line every year at TaylorMade. Same with the laminated shaft market.

I'm going to market my new line of shafts next year. They're standard one piece maple shafts. When people ask me about cueball deflection, I will tell them these are the latest design in shafts. They are the Mosconi shaft. When people ask me why I call them that, I will let them know what Willie's belief on side english was. "If you can't run 90% of your racks with no side english, you aren't ready to use it".

That's great for Willie to have said that, and he's likely right.

However, I simply don't care what he had to say on this subject.

When I need to use english, it complicates things, no doubt, but if must needs be used, I want it to be as easy as possible.

Good luck with your new shaft.
 
Wasn't digging on you, Flex, so calm down.

Too many people think a new shaft is the answer to their playing problems. I laughed my butt off during the commentary of the Action Challenge when Grady was talking about the OB-1 shaft during an inside english shot that SVB was playing. He said "with an OB-1, this shot's a hanger". Meanwhile, a couple of years ago he said the same thing about a Predator shaft. In two other videos I have, he comments on his Schon shaft being the best he's ever played with. In the video before that, it was a Schuler Pro shaft that he was in love with.

If all these shafts were the absolute nuts, EVERY pro would be using them. They are not. Johnny Archer still wins with a Cuetec, I mean Scorpion. Schmidt will continue to run 400+ whether he uses OB or Hunter or a Schon shaft. Indian, not arrow.
 
I fell in love with my OB-1

I've played with the OB-1 for about a year and I love it. Simply stated, the balls go where I want because the cue ball hits where I aim.

I couldn't ask for more
 
Isn't it logical: less deflection (squirt) facilitates the game.
You gotta get used to it, sure. But eventually things are gonna be more regular = more precise = you better than before.
Still, anyone can get good with a regular shaft, it's just a little harder.

At Pro speed, deflection is a 1% concern. There is another 99% more important.
 
Detlev Rackow said:
I know that I digress, but does the creator of the OB-1 happen to be a Star Wars-fan?

This comes to my mind whenever I read the name :-)

Regards,

Detlev

It comes from the owners last names, Owen and Bunnell
 
seymore15074 said:
You guys are breaking with them?! Omg, you know the ferrule is going to break, right? I saw a broken one about 2 months ago...from breaking with it.

I have been breaking with mine for almost 4 years, I have been clocked at 28mph, I have never broken one.
 
Sensation said:
Isn't it logical: less deflection (squirt) facilitates the game.
You gotta get used to it, sure. But eventually things are gonna be more regular = more precise = you better than before.
Still, anyone can get good with a regular shaft, it's just a little harder.

At Pro speed, deflection is a 1% concern. There is another 99% more important.

Actually, I recall Mike Davis saying something about the way the Predator Z shaft plays with minimum cue ball squirt and how that really simplified shooting with english. Those are not his actual words, but the meaning of what he said. I'm not so sure he'd agree that squirt is only a "1% concern."
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
If all these shafts were the absolute nuts, EVERY pro would be using them. They are not. Johnny Archer still wins with a Cuetec, I mean Scorpion. Schmidt will continue to run 400+ whether he uses OB or Hunter or a Schon shaft. Indian, not arrow.
Too simplistic. Everytime I turn around on here I hear, it's the indian not the arrow, or a great player can shoot with a broom stick. The reality is that that it's actually the indian using the arrow of their choice, and that arrow is almost never a broom stick!
There's a reason great players make particular equipment choices (in any sport), because they feel that equipment plays best for them. Sure they can play well with a broomstick, but the fact is they choose not to use a broomstick because they don't think they can play their best with it. ( and when they are playing with a broomstick, they're usually getting paid pretty darn well to so it's a fair sacrifice... ). Pretty straight forward.
 
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Flex said:
Actually, I recall Mike Davis saying something about the way the Predator Z shaft plays with minimum cue ball squirt and how that really simplified shooting with english. Those are not his actual words, but the meaning of what he said. I'm not so sure he'd agree that squirt is only a "1% concern."

OK, I exagerated a bit. But aside deflection compensation, there is all the knowledge, putting without side english, mental game and everything we need to be a world champ. I play with low deflection shafts because it makes putting a little easier, which gives me confidence to try some other shots, the opportunity to play another ball and learn. It's easier that way, why should I spit on it?
 
Some records that will be very hard to break were set with wooden headed drvers. Great golfers could play great golf with them. They choose not to. The advantages of new technology no matter how small or large are still advantages. As materials and manufacturing techniques change equipment will get better. It won't make a pro out of a poor player and in our excitement over a new and well made product we may credit it with more than it actually gives, but in the neverending search for a better game better equipment is one option that should always be considered.
 
I finally played with an OB-1 (5/16x14) that I got from Jay Helfert. It was a hell of a shaft. I always overshoot (position-wise) with it. It took some time to get used to. I just need to hit with lesser effort than before.

After a week, I changed the tip to a Molavia Hard and boy, this baby even went wilder than it used to be. I've placed it on a couple of butts (Mezz, Schon and Viattorre) and I really like the way it plays for now. This shaft is staying on my case.

I'm also eagerly awaiting the other OB-1 (3/8x10) to see how it plays on that type of pin.
 
Since this thread was brought back to life, I will ask you OB-1ers again...
Have they improved the whippiness of the shaft?
as I have not shot with one in 2 years... And the 1 I played with was unbelievably whippy like a Meucci.. And I hate that....
 
I don't think they changed the construction at all, "whippy" wise anyway. by whippy you mean how the shaft is more flexible than say a solid maple one right?
 
Coro said:
I don't think they changed the construction at all, "whippy" wise anyway. by whippy you mean how the shaft is more flexible than say a solid maple one right?


Compared to any high quality shaft.... including all the Predators i have owned and all of the other shafts...
they feel like the old Meucci shafts I have... 20 years old, and about 12mm
Super whippy as in not stiff at all....
 
ob-1 to the universal shafts

i use a universal shaft and was talking to royce at ob-1 here in louisville at the tournament wanted to know is anybody has changed from the universal to the ob-1. i never got the chance to check the shaft out while he was here. hoping when the derby is here, he will be here so i can try one out. so everone let me know.
 
Yea i know what youre saying now. I agree, they have a lot more flex to them vs. the predators and any other shaft out there i've noticed. I mean it's not a bad thing unless you have like a big pet peve about "whippyness". Overall, i like them though, i started to play with one a couple days ago an think i'm gonna stay with it.
 
Coro said:
Yea i know what youre saying now. I agree, they have a lot more flex to them vs. the predators and any other shaft out there i've noticed. I mean it's not a bad thing unless you have like a big pet peve about "whippyness". Overall, i like them though, i started to play with one a couple days ago an think i'm gonna stay with it.


i just prefer the stiff feel...
The Ob-1 would be great for a bar box player with a decent stroke... But IMO people who really get through the ball couldn't possibly play with a shaft that whippy.... that why I keep asking if the one I hit with could have been a dud.... Or maybe they are stiffer now than they were a few years ago
 
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