OB ferrule replacement ~ HELP???

krbsailing

krbsailing

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Need some help Guys,

A local player dropped off either an OB-1 or OB-2 shaft which has a cracked ferrule.

I've never worked on one of these and it's a little strange to say the least....appears to have a very thin like 1.2mm wooden ringed ferrule material with a 1.7mm hollowed out dowel which has been filled with foam!?

Does this make any sense? What's the recommended best course to repair/replace the cracked ferrule? Warranty item?

Thank for your input,

Ken :scratchhead:
 
Ob

I would strongly recommend calling the guys at OB cues. I needed one of there carbon fiber pads one time so I called them, They where great, sent me a bag of carbon fiber pads and a few ferrules for both there ferrules designs sent all that to me free of charge, They also paid the shipping.

I also recommend going to there website, They have all the instructions you will need to learn about and repair there ferrules on any Ob shaft.

One thing to note: Dont be fooled there have been black fiber pads around for years, But the ones OB uses on there shafts are not ordinary fiber pads, They are OB special CARBON FIBER PADS. If you want to do things right, Make sure you use there pad.
 
http://www.obcues.com/pages/Care-and-Repairs.html

Take a look here. You'll find some good information about care and repairs of our products. As others have recommended, you can also give us a call.

The important things are to have the right parts and to make sure that a carbon fiber pad goes back on. We do see ferrule problems as do any cue shafts, but most of them can be attributed to one of 2 things. Either removal of the carbon fiber pad during a tip change, or letting the tip get down too thin. The carbon fiber pad is there to protect the ferrule and if the tip gets too thin, any ferrule will break.

Repairs to our cue shafts are very easy, and not that much different than other cue shafts. As with any product, they need to be put back the way they were originally built so your customer still will still have the benefits he originally bought in the first place. We are happy to talk you through it if you need some help.

I hope that helps.

Royce
 
RBC said:
http://www.obcues.com/pages/Care-and-Repairs.html

Take a look here. You'll find some good information about care and repairs of our products. As others have recommended, you can also give us a call.

The important things are to have the right parts and to make sure that a carbon fiber pad goes back on. We do see ferrule problems as do any cue shafts, but most of them can be attributed to one of 2 things. Either removal of the carbon fiber pad during a tip change, or letting the tip get down too thin. The carbon fiber pad is there to protect the ferrule and if the tip gets too thin, any ferrule will break.

Repairs to our cue shafts are very easy, and not that much different than other cue shafts. As with any product, they need to be put back the way they were originally built so your customer still will still have the benefits he originally bought in the first place. We are happy to talk you through it if you need some help.

I hope that helps.

Royce
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Thanks Royce,

I'm going to refer the repair over to Paul Allers who works with your shafts and can mend this ferrule problem without any worries.

Thanks again for all your help and input,

Ken :smile:
 
Royce: Not to be a smart-aleck but according to your website's "OB Cue Shaft Ferrule Replacement" page, you're supposed to "[turn] down the ferrule to remove from the tenon. Leave the tip and pad in place if possible."

How can you possibly replace the ferrule if the tip and pad are still in place? Am I missing something? Or do your instructions need a little editing?
 
Jeff

Actually, it works quite well that way.

Our ferrules are through ferrules, so once you've machined the outer diameter of the original ferrule, tip and all, down to size, the new one slips right on. What leaving the tip and pad in place does, if you can, is to reinforce the new ferrule when facing it off. You just keep facing it off until you just get through the original pad. Then put a new pad and tip in place, and finish it out.

You can just leave the pad and take the tip off if you like. Either way.
 
Ken I was gonna ask why you weren't letting Paul fix it. As you know he has fixed several. Maybe I'll go watch it get worked on.
 
Royce: Ok, I get it now.

I was envisioning the top picture. You mean the bottom picture.

I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I knew the top picture won't work, no matter how hard you push!

You may consider re-wording your instructions. Or maybe I'm just an idiot. :)
 

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jschelin99 said:
Royce: Ok, I get it now.

I was envisioning the top picture. You mean the bottom picture.

I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I knew the top picture won't work, no matter how hard you push!

You may consider re-wording your instructions. Or maybe I'm just an idiot. :)
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Jeff

Yes, the bottom picture is more like what I was talking about.

However, the scale is off. Our tenon is much larger than what is depicted in your pics.

OB-1's and Classic's have a larger tenon than the OB-2's and Classic Pro's, but both are much larger than your representation. The wall thickness of our ferrules is surprisingly thin.
 
Royce: You really felt the need to point out that the scale of the tenon is off in my picture that I drew in 5 minutes? I only drew the picture to get my point across that your website's directions are ambiguous and need re-wording. I was simply giving you a suggestion to help your customers.

I know you're a busy man, and you must speak with countless people every week. But, for your information, I know all about your products. I still play with the first OB1 shaft I bought directly from *you* in Las Vegas in your first year at the BCA Nationals years ago when I signed up to be an OB dealer. Due to a falling out with my former business partner, I am no longer an OB dealer. This, coupled with your busy schedule, must be the reason you don't remember me *EVERY TIME* we have a conversation about OB products.

I've replaced dozens of cracked twisted maple OB ferrules. You obviously don't remember the conversation you and I had where I expressed my concern about your twisted maple ferrules cracking far too often. Now that I have a cue business of my own and am still servicing the very OB shafts I sold with my former partner, I had to call OB to order your twisted maple ferrules and carbon fiber pads.

I know you didn't mean to offend me with your explanation of the OB tenon sizes. I know you were just pointing it out for the other AZ'ers that were reading this thread. However, the fact still remains that your website's ferrule replacement directions are ambiguous. Take it for what it is.
 
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