Ohh the Evil APA!! Part 2

The Renfro

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Tuesday was my second match back in the APA Masters and I got the pleasure meeting several new players who are on our shared Journey....

My match started with me winning the lag and choosing 9ball to start. This meant since I chose the game, my opponent broke. I didn't get Mike's last name but he was new to the league so we had to stop and ask a ton of questions from time to time about the rules....

Mike had wished me luck before he broke and to my horror when he struck the rack I realized I had slugged him.... I was more worried about where all of my gear was and not paying attention. I had racked the balls and never even looked at them.......

I walked over to him and told him I had slugged him because I was more concerned about getting my chalk out and my cues together than what I was supposed to be doing... I told him I "wanted" to rerack the balls and start over... Our captain looked at me like I was nuts but he knows I am nuts so he didn't object....

For the whole set after that I never had to worry about a slug. Mike was as diligent as I was racking and said he was truly amazed that I had stepped up like I had...

Even after the match he was super friendly and I heard him tell his sons that the way I had acted was how the game was supposed to be played..

I'm not relaying this to toot my own horn but to point out that even in the APA there is always room for us to act the way we know we should act.

As far as how I played.... Like total crap... Glad they don't count innings because I don't think my mind could grasp that large of a number... I think it was approaching a googleplex... I don't have a clue what that actually is anymore but I seem to recall it is quite large....

Promised the captain I would try and get some practice in this week since my job is supposed to be the closer... Closers shouldn't win 7-6 when the team needs a 7-3....

All in all I still had a good time and saw friends I hadn't seen in awhile... Next week should be another adventure as I likely won't get any practice in before Tuesday...

Ack.. Almost forgot something important I learned about myself...

I can't seem to hate my opponent anymore... I tried to when I was shooting poorly since I used to be able to channel that when all else failed...

I just stuck with honestly rooting for Mike when he was at the table and not giving up... figuring that rolls would likely decide how the match ended like they usually do anyway..... I got lucky and won 7-6... Or Mike was unlucky and lost 7-6....

I like being lucky so I think I'll stick with the first way of looking at things.......
 
And YOU are exactly the type of player welcome in the APA. Congratulations on the sportsmanship and attitude.

You could play in my APA franchise anytime though I'm sure you will soon be labeled as a sucker and suck up on this board. Brace yourself. LOL

FULL DISCLOSURE - I've been an APA League Operator in Kansas City since 1980.
 
That was a GREAT post! Thank you for making me smile this morning!!! :smile:
 
The APA and good sportsmanship are not mutually exclusive. It's all what the players make of it.

In the case of the Raleigh area APA, the sportsmanship varies a lot between pool halls and between the handicapped divisions and masters division.

Some of the pool halls around here really focus on sportsmanship and respect for the game and your opponent and others foster more of a "win at all costs" attitude. Fortunately, the teams with the unsportsmanlike attitudes don't seem to win any more often than the ones that play the game the way it should be played.

The masters division is really fun because almost all of the best APA players around here are honest and sportsmanlike. Even when we play the city tournament, most of the players at least recognize each other and would be embarrassed if they were caught cheating or acting unsportsmanlike. We've actually re-racked bad racks in that tournament with a trip to play in nationals on the line. Everyone just wants to play their best game and find out if that's good enough to win.
 
Very nice post! The example for sportsmanship and honesty you set for your Opponent's Sons should make you very, very proud.
 
You're everything I wished I could be when playing league. Therefore, I must hate you.

Freddie <~~~ and that won't make me play any better
 
Tuesday was my second match back in the APA Masters and I got the pleasure meeting several new players who are on our shared Journey....

My match started with me winning the lag and choosing 9ball to start. This meant since I chose the game, my opponent broke. I didn't get Mike's last name but he was new to the league so we had to stop and ask a ton of questions from time to time about the rules....

Mike had wished me luck before he broke and to my horror when he struck the rack I realized I had slugged him.... I was more worried about where all of my gear was and not paying attention. I had racked the balls and never even looked at them.......

I walked over to him and told him I had slugged him because I was more concerned about getting my chalk out and my cues together than what I was supposed to be doing... I told him I "wanted" to rerack the balls and start over... Our captain looked at me like I was nuts but he knows I am nuts so he didn't object....

For the whole set after that I never had to worry about a slug. Mike was as diligent as I was racking and said he was truly amazed that I had stepped up like I had...

Even after the match he was super friendly and I heard him tell his sons that the way I had acted was how the game was supposed to be played..

I'm not relaying this to toot my own horn but to point out that even in the APA there is always room for us to act the way we know we should act.

As far as how I played.... Like total crap... Glad they don't count innings because I don't think my mind could grasp that large of a number... I think it was approaching a googleplex... I don't have a clue what that actually is anymore but I seem to recall it is quite large....

Promised the captain I would try and get some practice in this week since my job is supposed to be the closer... Closers shouldn't win 7-6 when the team needs a 7-3....

All in all I still had a good time and saw friends I hadn't seen in awhile... Next week should be another adventure as I likely won't get any practice in before Tuesday...

Ack.. Almost forgot something important I learned about myself...

I can't seem to hate my opponent anymore... I tried to when I was shooting poorly since I used to be able to channel that when all else failed...

I just stuck with honestly rooting for Mike when he was at the table and not giving up... figuring that rolls would likely decide how the match ended like they usually do anyway..... I got lucky and won 7-6... Or Mike was unlucky and lost 7-6....

I like being lucky so I think I'll stick with the first way of looking at things.......



APA needs less douche bags and more people like you
 
You better stop with all the positive APA threads....that's just not tolerated around here :p

Thanks for sharing. Very cool.
 
I'm really not sure what this has to do with the apa? Are you saying that this doesn't happen In other leagues? Lack of sportsmanship isn't one of my complaints about the apa. The complaints are sandbagging and for me seeing players who are 2 or 3s that no one wants to teach to play better because they need them to stay at the same level.

Btw for the record I play apa 9 ball and am enjoying it more then I thought I would. In fact instead of playing two bca leagues this year I'm going to play in one of each. I've seen very little sandbagging in my area but a lot of new players who are left alone so they don't get better.
 
I'm really not sure what this has to do with the apa? Are you saying that this doesn't happen In other leagues? Lack of sportsmanship isn't one of my complaints about the apa. The complaints are sandbagging and for me seeing players who are 2 or 3s that no one wants to teach to play better because they need them to stay at the same level.

Btw for the record I play apa 9 ball and am enjoying it more then I thought I would. In fact instead of playing two bca leagues this year I'm going to play in one of each. I've seen very little sandbagging in my area but a lot of new players who are left alone so they don't get better.

The post title goes back to my post from last week... http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=279857 I intend to do a weekly recap...

I have bashed the APA in the past and will likely do so again in regards to certain areas but from a social aspect and for the good of the sport I rejoined a masters team... Well maybe for the good of the sport is stretching it since I am just one person so my motives were more influenced by helping a friend's team out...

My title basically reflects that I am willing to eat some crow on the nights when the APA gets me out of the house and I have a great time.....

On league nights I don't think about industry politics or how I "think" Hubbert and Bell should run their league... I simply show up and so far have a good time.....
 
The post title goes back to my post from last week... http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=279857 I intend to do a weekly recap...

I have bashed the APA in the past and will likely do so again in regards to certain areas but from a social aspect and for the good of the sport I rejoined a masters team... Well maybe for the good of the sport is stretching it since I am just one person so my motives were more influenced by helping a friend's team out...

My title basically reflects that I am willing to eat some crow on the nights when the APA gets me out of the house and I have a great time.....

On league nights I don't think about industry politics or how I "think" Hubbert and Bell should run their league... I simply show up and so far have a good time.....

glad to see you are having a good time so far. to me pool is a hobby because i know i will never be good enough to make a living off it.

if i am not enjoying myself and having fun i might as well not play. that is why i am dropping my traveling money league team after this session. i will probably start up another apa team. although my money team has always done well and usually finishes pretty high up i am just not enjoying it as much as i do on my apa or napa teams.

getting tired of fading the drunks, dive bars, crappy tables etc,etc,.
playing for money seems to bring out the worst in people and i just wanna have fun playing the game i love.
 
Tuesday was my second match back in the APA Masters and I got the pleasure meeting several new players who are on our shared Journey....

My match started with me winning the lag and choosing 9ball to start. This meant since I chose the game, my opponent broke. I didn't get Mike's last name but he was new to the league so we had to stop and ask a ton of questions from time to time about the rules....

Mike had wished me luck before he broke and to my horror when he struck the rack I realized I had slugged him.... I was more worried about where all of my gear was and not paying attention. I had racked the balls and never even looked at them.......

I walked over to him and told him I had slugged him because I was more concerned about getting my chalk out and my cues together than what I was supposed to be doing... I told him I "wanted" to rerack the balls and start over... Our captain looked at me like I was nuts but he knows I am nuts so he didn't object....

For the whole set after that I never had to worry about a slug. Mike was as diligent as I was racking and said he was truly amazed that I had stepped up like I had...

Even after the match he was super friendly and I heard him tell his sons that the way I had acted was how the game was supposed to be played..

I'm not relaying this to toot my own horn but to point out that even in the APA there is always room for us to act the way we know we should act.

As far as how I played.... Like total crap... Glad they don't count innings because I don't think my mind could grasp that large of a number... I think it was approaching a googleplex... I don't have a clue what that actually is anymore but I seem to recall it is quite large....

Promised the captain I would try and get some practice in this week since my job is supposed to be the closer... Closers shouldn't win 7-6 when the team needs a 7-3....

All in all I still had a good time and saw friends I hadn't seen in awhile... Next week should be another adventure as I likely won't get any practice in before Tuesday...

Ack.. Almost forgot something important I learned about myself...

I can't seem to hate my opponent anymore... I tried to when I was shooting poorly since I used to be able to channel that when all else failed...

I just stuck with honestly rooting for Mike when he was at the table and not giving up... figuring that rolls would likely decide how the match ended like they usually do anyway..... I got lucky and won 7-6... Or Mike was unlucky and lost 7-6....

I like being lucky so I think I'll stick with the first way of looking at things.......
C'mon Chris, some of us know the " real " you. LOL Haven't seen you at Bailey's tourn in a while, but I haven't been going very often myself during the summer.
 
C'mon Chris, some of us know the " real " you. LOL Haven't seen you at Bailey's tourn in a while, but I haven't been going very often myself during the summer.

LOL too true in some respects.... Hope you and Daniel are doing well... Wasabi tried to kill me in February and I am still not 100%... Working 2-3 days a week at most... Hope to see you both in Tunica... And as far as the Bailey's Tournament is concerned I didn't even know they were still having them on Mondays...

Tunica in a few weeks and The Accu-Stats Invitational in August are all I am concentrating on for the moment.... Well that and 9 products I have in R&D atm... I need to give you a Rack-Smith proto when I see you.. It gives the Magic Rack the 7...
 
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