Old School 2 Pushout 9 Ball

[Charlie Hustle]

I've heard about the old school 2 pushout 9 ball that was played before Texas Express took over, but have never seen it played. I have a couple of questions about the rules.

Obviously after the break if the shooter doesn't have a shot, they can push out (roll out). If the opponent gives them back the shot, do they get to pushout again?

2nd question. After the 1st pushout, if the opponent decides to accept the shot from where it lies, do they have the option to pushout again?

Just something I have been curious about recently.

 

[gerard soriano]

No and No

 

[Charlie Hustle]

No and No

So where does the "2 pushout" come into play?

 

[Biloxi Boy]

Two different games -- way more strategy with push out -- similar to 1P -- lots of safety play. Ability to think was an essential skill, so was ability to play rails. Just another aspect of the game that commercialization/modernization of pool has stolen from us. Can't deeply miss what you don't deeply know. Too early in the morning for such ruminating . . .

Never heard of, or don't remember, "2 pushout".

 

[Buckzapper]

One of the best rollout matches I ever saw was in Syracuse, NY. Gary Pinkowski was in the hot seat and Mike Wallace had to beat Pinky twice in races to 11. Each set went 10-10 with Mike Wallace winning both sets. Amazing play and tough shots fired in every rack. Wallace, a great straight pool player took down many competitors. That was at Cap's Cue Club.

 

[garczar]

We always played where there could only be TWO consecutive pushes: say player A pushes. Player B could also push. At that time both are on one foul so the next shot, regardless of who shoots, has to be legal or a ball-in-hand happens. This situation didn't happen often but having this rule eliminates a 'push fest'. Playing push-out 9b is such a better game than TE. TE is fine for speeding up tournaments but that's about it.