Olhausen Champion Pro

[THE SILENCER]

i disagree, the pockets should be huge. all of the televised pro events on espn the pockets are slightly larger than a basketball hoop! why? so people could see amazing shots! now, if you want to tighten up your playing, put an object ball half way blocking a pocket, and then you'll tighten up your game. p.s. do you think a player like bustamante, with his radical devil may care stroke, would make as many balls as he does, with little teeny,tiny pockets? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[drivermaker]

Maybe a pool table geek/installer on the forum could weigh in.

Why wait for an installer....isn't there a chapter in Jack Koehler's book called the "Physics of building a pool table"?

 

[Pelican]

Do what?

how many pool halls have olhausen, that i know of ? none, what does that mean? nothing, pool halls know crap about tables,

This makes about as much sense as saying - a chef does not know anything about knives, a mechanic does not know anything about tools, a landscaper does not know anything about grounds maintenance equipment. People in business know the equipment that make their business work, be successful, and require the least maintenance. Sorry silencer, your statement is ludicrous.

 

[drivermaker]

i disagree, the pockets should be huge. all of the televised pro events on espn the pockets are slightly larger than a basketball hoop! why? so people could see amazing shots! now, if you want to tighten up your playing, put an object ball half way blocking a pocket, and then you'll tighten up your game. p.s. do you think a player like bustamante, with his radical devil may care stroke, would make as many balls as he does, with little teeny,tiny pockets? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have noticed on TV that the pro's are hitting the long rail somewhat far up and the ball is still going in. But, I have a 9' Olhausen and my pockets are tighter than a virgin's you know what and I cannot get away with that. They do play differently than the pockets of a GC when I go out. I think it's better for me that they are this way.

 

[Cue of Fury]

It is all about personal preference. When it comes down to it, find and purchase the table which suits your needs, your desires, your space limitations, and your budget.

 

[THE SILENCER]

if i were to purchase a pool table, i would choose the following--------
a 9 foot regulation sized olhausen champion pro table in dull mat black, with the writing "olhausen the best in billiards" written in white on the sides. L.E.O.A.N.I. italian slate. simonis 860 cloth in traditional green. accu-fast cushions exclusivly from olhausen. the biggest pockets available, i believe 5"? drop pockets, no ball returns. Mali F-1 through the F-6 in the cue rack. a wooden triangle rack with gold brass corners. oversized score balls above, for tracking the races. very expensive spectater chairs, that are high up, with foot rests, and no woobling. the stereo system would be all denon electronics, with J.B.L! speakers. the music would be very low, and either the beatles or divertimenti classical music. the balls would be aramith centenieals. my personal cue would be the one i use now, a Mali M-14 with a triangle tip with a red fibre backing. and a Mali M-1 break and jump cue. my case, a schmelke 2x4 luggage, "i've got business to take care of" case. the lighting? banker green with gold trim. tempeture? 67 degrees. with de-humidifiers at top speed 24 hours a day. Q-clean shaft cleaning system for my shaft. bevrages? diet pepsi, with lemons and limes. atmosphere, a few girls that are bottom heavy wearing tight clothes. the game? 8-ball texas express rules, the 8- must be called, races to 5, the first one who wins 5 sets wins. the carpet? beige, and commercial, for long life. the chalk master in traditional blue, fresh pieces only. cue ball fouls only. no shot clock. well, there you have it, hey, it's my dream set up.

 

[Williebetmore]

I have noticed on TV that the pro's are hitting the long rail somewhat far up and the ball is still going in. But, I have a 9' Olhausen and my pockets are tighter than a virgin's you know what and I cannot get away with that. They do play differently than the pockets of a GC when I go out. I think it's better for me that they are this way.

I don't think Koehler has done any serious analysis of virgin's you-know-what(though I am anxiously awaiting any serious research on the topic). I also think the Ohlhausen definitely has tighter pockets than the unaltered GCIV. Some of the difference is pocket set back, and some is rail angle; but balls definitely jar more often on the Ohlhausen. Of course the local Diamond tables are even tighter - no slop goes in at all.

 

[THE SILENCER]

judging from the posts here, i've come to the conclusion that the standard pockets on the champion pro are tighter than normal, therefore i propose, when you order it, specify you want the exact same sized pockets the pros use on television, i believe that's 5 inches, someone back me up on that.

 

[striker_3]

i disagree, the pockets should be huge. all of the televised pro events on espn the pockets are slightly larger than a basketball hoop! why? so people could see amazing shots! now, if you want to tighten up your playing, put an object ball half way blocking a pocket, and then you'll tighten up your game. p.s. do you think a player like bustamante, with his radical devil may care stroke, would make as many balls as he does, with little teeny,tiny pockets? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That makes for great TV, but I have practiced on the tightest table I could find. That way, when you're playing on a basketball court, the ball has a better chance to fall. Why teach yourself that you only have to hit a ball half ass straight? On your other comment, why do you want a table with drop pockets? I love playing on a return table, especially when its in a house. Makes it easier to rack when you're playing by yourself.

 

[Joseph Cues]

judging from the posts here, i've come to the conclusion that the standard pockets on the champion pro are tighter than normal, therefore i propose, when you order it, specify you want the exact same sized pockets the pros use on television, i believe that's 5 inches, someone back me up on that.

Not quite.
The stock one are huge. The ones Busta and Mika played one were embarassingly generous. The ones I tried were the same. On the same table, Jeanette tried to play safe on Allison, the ball went in to the side after hitting the end rail sharply.
The only tables I know that have pro-size pockets off the factory are the Gabriels ( 4 9/16) and Diamond Pro ( less than 4 1/2).
Gold Crown comes with huuuuuge pockets off the factory too.

 

[drivermaker]

I don't think Koehler has done any serious analysis of virgin's you-know-what(though I am anxiously awaiting any serious research on the topic). I also think the Ohlhausen definitely has tighter pockets than the unaltered GCIV. Some of the difference is pocket set back, and some is rail angle; but balls definitely jar more often on the Ohlhausen. Of course the local Diamond tables are even tighter - no slop goes in at all.

Koehler has never done and will never do ANY analysis of a virgin's you-know-what because he's far to geeky to ever get close enough to it. One day I'll publish my findings when I start regularly missing shots and have nothing else to do. I have in fact devoted most of my life to figuring out the best ways to place objects in holes, pool being only one of those activities.

You are correct about the way the pocket is set back and the rail angle. I know the openings to the corner pocket are within 5", actually 4 3/4"; then go down to 4 1/2" right at the edge of the slate at the lip of the pocket; then down to 4" where the rail ends inside the pocket.

 

[Joseph Cues]

Olhausen somehow jar the balls when it hits the very back of the cushion facings in the corner. Even if the pockets are wide. Olhausen though has very deep slates. Just like Diamond. GC's slates now are not quite as deep as in the GC I's I think.

 

[Williebetmore]

Koehler has never done and will never do ANY analysis of a virgin's you-know-what because he's far to geeky to ever get close enough to it.

Of course there is a variety of female that finds irresistible the slide rule, pocket protector, black-rimmed glasses held together with white tape, and did I forget to mention the 6 figure yearly salary.

 

[Cue of Fury]

Is the variety you are speaking of the "gold-digger" types? I would certainly make every attempt to steer clear of them as the gold is all they are interested in, rather than some of the more pleasurable physical aspects to interpersonal relations between a man and wife.

 

[drivermaker]

Of course there is a variety of female that finds irresistible the slide rule, pocket protector, black-rimmed glasses held together with white tape, and did I forget to mention the 6 figure yearly salary.

Anna Nicole Smith has a sister...and a virgin to boot?

 

[wakuljr]

It sounds like the Silencer has never really seen the insides of these tables. The Brunswick had incredibly thick wooden supports, resting on steel. The Ohlhausen had less than half the thickness of support frame. The slates on the Brunswick were a little thicker. The skirts and legs of the Brunswick are mahogany, laminate rails. I'm not sure what the Ohlhausen was made of (?composite of some kind). Maybe a pool table geek/installer on the forum could weigh in.

the slates are the same thinkness 1" on both, i have set up many gc 4's, i don't recall a steel frame. however the wood frame is big and heavy. the legs are a vaneer and the skirts are made of a wood called crobixa( i know i spelled that wrong) it is part of the mahg. family. the rails are pretty much the same as the gc 4, high impact laminate.

 

[cuetalk]

My local Olhausen dealer just setup an Olhausen Champion Pro in their showroom. The first thing that I noticed was the pockets were held in with small staples. My Gold Crown at home uses allen screws which seems like a better method.

 

[Bertram9B]

I don't think Koehler has done any serious analysis of virgin's you-know-what(though I am anxiously awaiting any serious research on the topic).

:rotflmao1:

I can't stop laughing! I stopped by a local store here in Atlanta and they have used OGC tables for 1600 from my alma mater, Georgia Tech's, student center. I don't know if I can get the large tournament pockets on it but at that price I might go with what they have. I love the OGC and will not be able to pass up this deal to evaluate the table and then order a brand new one if I'm satisfied, later on.

I've played on many GC tables and love them but I will pay attention to the tournaments and try out the OC and Diamond tables to see which I prefer.

I have won a few nine ball tournaments and know cushions must be "figured out" a few weeks before the tournament. Even the humidity will affect play and must be accounted for if you are to be successful. I've read and heard many good things about the OC tables... they look great, black with the logos... and really that is a large part of satisfaction as well.

:smash:

 

[one stroke]

You can't judge pool table pockets on TV tables thier new felted tables and balls skid off the rails instead of the rail grabbing the ball , nothing plays easier than a new felted table



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[grindz]

I love the accuracy of the Olhausen rails!! Pockets with the deep shelves
not so much. Great practice table.... not so good for 14.1...will command
your respect and concentration. May not be too much fun to play on if,
you're less than shortstop speed. JMNSHO

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