Hell, I'd play this Hwong guy. Even though I know his intention was to rile people up, it worked. I'll pose a question to this guy, how are you going to feel when a "banger" puts a 5 pack on you, then plays safe then puts another 5 pack on you? Wanna play some?
Once and for all!
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Post up and play some then. I am sure there are several women players that would love to take your money. In short put your money where your mouth is.....
Post up and play some then. I am sure there are several women players that would love to take your money. In short put your money where your mouth is.....
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hkwong said:
if only i could curse without having my post removed, i would tell you exactly what i think of your comment above and i don't even like to watch women play. you sir are an ignorant individual. not everyone on this board voicing their opinions are bangers, many are very well versed in pool and the pool community. the truth of the matter is that many women have placed very high ($$ earned) if not taking the title in large events. many will post up with you if you want to put your money where your mouth. so, how well do you play? what are you stats that you are so far above the game? the women do have a long haul to be total equals with the play of men, but don't underestimate the ability of a woman. you will be the next one with head tucked between legs leaving the room with no dough.
It is really ridiculous for someone to say that the top 500 males are better than Allison and Karen. I don't know where the realistic number would be, but 500 is somewhere in the stratosphere. This thread does not have much merit, so I will leave my comments there, in hopes this thread will quickly die.
Keep in mind Allison does not gamble that well. Karen on other hand does gamble well. She gives Eddie A the 8ball I heard. One very important thing is table conditions. With that snooker stance and stroke, the felt has to be fast for them to bunt the balls around. On slow felt with tight pockets there alot more than 500 players world wide that could be easily beat them.
I think alot of people are misunderstanding B Whites post- He isnt saying that the women cannot play, he is more talking about the depth of the men. As for my opinion on the difference,(and I both know and have played some of the top women), there are really only 3-5 females that could compete at all with the top men. And I think that the number of men that would be considered favorites over them would be well above 100, but probably not 500. No disrespect meant, just an opinion-Matt ps- is this BWhizzle?
Priorties!
and tip roughed and chalked,making sure necessary food and beverages
are fresh and iced. Also paramount in your duties would be re-funding
when your man gets broke betting on men vs. ladies matches.
Cheerleading would only be acceptable when all the above duties
are current.
I was thinking maybe; Stick assembly and dis-assembly,keeping cue cleanlodini said:OK, girls... let's pack it up and go home. There's obviously no reason for any of us to be here, since we'd never have a chance in hell at being any good at pool. Apparently bending over and hitting balls is purely a men's sport. Especially since I've learned from this thread that there are 500 men better than any woman! What were we thinking?!?! We might as well hand over our pro tour too... obviously, the men would be more successful at that too. Maybe we'd be more useful as cheerleaders?
and tip roughed and chalked,making sure necessary food and beverages
are fresh and iced. Also paramount in your duties would be re-funding
when your man gets broke betting on men vs. ladies matches.
Cheerleading would only be acceptable when all the above duties
are current.
JCIN said:
I said simply ask the top 100 as a reference to prove that anyone thats a good player knows that there are 500 guys that are better than allison or karen...better means better player..better player is determined by a lot of play and anyway u do it sir the male players will destroy them over and over again and come out on top..There are 500 guys that if they played allison or karen for a week straight under lights on tv or on the moon they would beat them down...get it through your big dumb thick skull.................
You sir are the fool...and a big one.................
Ask every pro you see for the next year at your TAR coverage and 99% will agree that there are 500 men that will beat down any girl if they played over a long period of time not one race to 9........
THATS A FACT JACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JCIN said:
I completely agree. Tiger is the best golfer to ever live, but he isn't God. He has some bad days, and if Anika was on she could beat him. I say out of 50 Annika wins two or three times.
Talking match play here, one round. For her to win stroke play over four days, his wheels would have to fall off and she would have to play lights out. If they played on a short course she would have a better chance.
Kelly
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B_White said:
So basically you are saying that women cannot learn? In other words if say Kelly Fisher played Johhny Archer 7 ahead sets for a week then she wouldn't get any better and would NEVER ever have a chance to beat him in any 7 ahead (10, 12, 35, 57 ahead) set ever?
So they basically reach a certain level and then no more improvement right? Never ever? No matter how much they practice, spar with, gamble with, get coached by top male pros they are wasting their time right?
I mean Kelly has run a 7 pack FROM THE BREAK on TV - she has run more racks than that on tight equipment in practice. But you are saying that she would NEVER EVER be able to do that against Archer right? Never Ever?
Ok, I will take that bet. Since it's a NEVER EVER win I will take Kelly at 20:1 odds and let her play Johnny Archer 20 7 ahead sets and I will bet 1K per set if you bet 20K per set. Since YOU say it's NEVER EVER then it's a LOCK to steal my 20K.
Care to bet? I didn't think so, seems like you have a different idea of what NEVER means than I do.
And like Justin, let me take care of your NEXT move. I have plenty of HEART - which is why I will bet against NEVER EVER. Sure Johnny will win the majority of the sets, but I sure hope that Kelly can squeak out at least one so I can break even. God forbid she wins two and you are stuck like chuck.
But see, I think that Kelly gets better IF she plays Johnny that way and she learns to do what Johnny does. Do you think Johhny shoots straighter than Kelly Fisher? No he doesn't - there is not a single shot known to man that Johhny Archer shoots consistently better than Kelly Fisher does. Does Johnny pick better patterns - of course he does, does he play better safeties, you bet he does, does he bank better, probably. Can Kelly learn all that he knows and execute it as well as he does - definitely.
THE only thing that separates the men from the women is numbers. More men playing means more men who excel. That's it. Oh, an idiots who won't give a woman credit for being a GREAT POOL PLAYER regardless of her gender.
ANY woman? You, sir, must be willing to part with money. Pool is not physically dominant like football. At most some men may generate a little more power on the break, but even that is subjective. On what basis do you make these claims? If you stuck a boy in a room for years with a table and a good instructor and you did the same with a girl, does the boy end up a better player everytime based on his sex?Care to elaborate?
i would like to see how a match of this nature would turn out.
I try to never engage in this sort of argument, but, in this case I'll jump in the water like a fool. If, the argument is that the best woman player in the world, whomever that happens to be, is the favorite against the 500th best male player on the planet, whomever that happens to be, in an INCREDIBLY long contest of pool, I feel that whomever the guy is, he is the favorite. All the semantics of "under the lights", short sets, for your lunch money or whatever aside, I feel that B_White is correct. This is just my opinion, but I just feel THAT guy, whomever he is, is the favorite. Can it be proven beyond a reasonable doubt? I don't know. But it is fun to speculate. And I would love to watch it up close to see how it actually would go.B_White said:
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I will take any part of your bet that you are willing to give up Mr White.B_White said:
dogginda9 said:I try to never engage in this sort of argument, but, in this case I'll jump in the water like a fool. If, the argument is that the best woman player in the world, whomever that happens to be, is the favorite against the 500th best male player on the planet, whomever that happens to be, in an INCREDIBLY long contest of pool, I feel that whomever the guy is, he is the favorite. All the semantics of "under the lights", short sets, for your lunch money or whatever aside, I feel that B_White is correct. This is just my opinion, but I just feel THAT guy, whomever he is, is the favorite. Can it be proven beyond a reasonable doubt? I don't know. But it is fun to speculate. And I would love to watch it up close to see how it actually would go.
My first post on AZ years ago was a challenge to any woman on earth to play Reed Pierce a 10 ahead set for $10K. No takers. Seems people were scared of a guy that 13 years ago won the US Open.
I got a new one for ya. I will let, Jamie Farrell, play a 15 ahead set of 9 ball against any woman you guys want to put in the box on a 9' Diamond Pro table for the same $10k,,,,,,,,OR MORE. I know Karen or Allison can not be afraid of that name as they were, Reed Pierce. In fact, Jamie, is probably not in the top 500 players in the world.
Call me nuts,,,,,,,,,maybe,,,,,,,,,,,,,but just call me. I will not argue the point with anyone on here. That didn't work last time. I will put up the cash. PM me and we can work out the details.
JB Cases said:
There have been many different opinions about the male vs. female topic, and I don't think one person have never said that some of the women play great. Some people call other people sexist and blind for not saying that Allison or Karen could beat the top men. We need to just put an end to these debates and have a few male vs. female challenge matches. I may think that Allison can't beat so an so, but that in no way means that I don't respect her as a great pool player. I don't know if the only thing that seperates men from the women is numbers, but whatever the case, I don't think any idiots ever said the women don't play great. They just may not be favored in a long set against certain male players.
