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Donny Lutz

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Had this cue for a year. Like it a lot. Still unable to identify it...
 
I believe I remember commenting on this cue some time ago. It has elements of "Bushka," but most of us thought it wasn't, given many considerations. However, I think it's a great looking old school cue.
 
Nice looking cue. I'm assuming that's a brass joint. If so, how does it play as opposed to a stainless steel joint?

Thanks, Jerry
 
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Nice looking cue. I'm assuming that's a brass joint. If so, how does it play as opposed to a stainless steel joint?

Thanks, Jerry

It hits a bit softer than stainless, which I like.
It played nicely with the original shaft, but even better with an OB Classic.

I sent pics to a number of cue makers. Most didn't respond. One said, "I only identify cues I make"...that didn't help much.

The most helpful were Barry Szamboti and Richard Black. Barry said he was 98% sure his dad didn't make it, and was sure it wasn't a Balabushka, or Palmer, but perhaps a Paradise.

Richard thought Paradise, but said he needed to see an x-ray to be sure. I sent him an x-ray and he said no, not a Paradise or Balabushka.

Both Barry and Richard, and Mike Massey and Tommy Kennedy (who played with it briefly) were impressed with the quality.
 
Barry said he was 98% sure his dad didn't make it, and was sure it wasn't a Balabushka, or Palmer, but perhaps a Paradise.

Richard thought Paradise, but said he needed to see an x-ray to be sure. I sent him an x-ray and he said no, not a Paradise or Balabushka.

Both Barry and Richard, and Mike Massey and Tommy Kennedy (who played with it briefly) were impressed with the quality.

I would have been astounded to think anyone would think it's a Paradise. I've never seen a 1.5 inch delrin buttplate with rubber bumper coming from him. I've also never seen a Paradise cue with Bushka joint rings with a brass joint. Surely Barry had to be kidding.
 
Used to love Gainesville

It hits a bit softer than stainless, which I like.
It played nicely with the original shaft, but even better with an OB Classic.

I sent pics to a number of cue makers. Most didn't respond. One said, "I only identify cues I make"...that didn't help much.

The most helpful were Barry Szamboti and Richard Black. Barry said he was 98% sure his dad didn't make it, and was sure it wasn't a Balabushka, or Palmer, but perhaps a Paradise.

Richard thought Paradise, but said he needed to see an x-ray to be sure. I sent him an x-ray and he said no, not a Paradise or Balabushka.

Both Barry and Richard, and Mike Massey and Tommy Kennedy (who played with it briefly) were impressed with the quality.

I bet it plays really good Donny. Too bad it is an unknown, but you can tell it's worth some good money. Looks like a keeper though.

I used to play some in Gainesville, played Furber and Grossman down there to name a couple. Early to mid 90's though. Loved Panama Joe's for pool and the Silver Q to party a little while knocking a few around.

Good friends with TK from FLA as well, he's been a house guest of mine on 2 or 3 occasions.

Have a goodn', Jerry
 
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I bet it plays really good Donny. Too bad it is an unknown, but you can tell it's worth some good money. Looks like a keeper though.

I used to play some in Gainesville, played Furber and Grossman down there to name a couple. Early to mid 90's though. Loved Panama Joe's for pool and the Silver Q to party a little while knocking a few around.

Good friends with TK from FLA as well, he's been a house guest of mine on 2 or 3 occasions.

Have a goodn', Jerry[/QUOTE

I moved here in '98.

Furber is still around and still tough. Grossman lives elsewhere. Best players here now include Chris Wall, Steve Foster, Don Kreischer and Stu Fox when he's playing.

Panama Joe's is gone, as are Silver Q, Happy Hour, JP Gators, Spindrifter's and the Round Bar. Four others have opened and closed in recent years.

The Hogtown League folded a couple years ago, as did several other leagues that I and others attempted to organize. I really miss playing in BCA and VNEA leagues as I did when I lived in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Maryland.
 
I bet it plays really good Donny. Too bad it is an unknown, but you can tell it's worth some good money. Looks like a keeper though.

I used to play some in Gainesville, played Furber and Grossman down there to name a couple. Early to mid 90's though. Loved Panama Joe's for pool and the Silver Q to party a little while knocking a few around.

Good friends with TK from FLA as well, he's been a house guest of mine on 2 or 3 occasions.

Have a goodn', Jerry[/QUOTE

I moved here in '98.

Furber is still around and still tough. Grossman lives elsewhere. Best players here now include Chris Wall, Steve Foster, Don Kreischer and Stu Fox when he's playing.

Panama Joe's is gone, as are Silver Q, Happy Hour, JP Gators, Spindrifter's and the Round Bar. Four others have opened and closed in recent years.

The Hogtown League folded a couple years ago, as did several other leagues that I and others attempted to organize. I really miss playing in BCA and VNEA leagues as I did when I lived in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Maryland.

Man that sucks, great places shutting down all over the country. Happening in Knoxville, too. There's still a few places to go, but nothing like before.

Glad I have a table at home. Even if I don't get out and about, I can still get my pool fix in.
 
I agree with most others on here,I think it is a great looking old school cue-timeless design. HOPEFULLY it was made as a bushka tribute cue and not made in the 80's after The Color of Money as a genuine Balabushka.

On a side note-a funny but unfortunately true quote I remember Bill Schick telling me years ago
"After the Color of Money there were more Balabushkas in Japan than were ever made by George."-Bill Schick....like I said sad but all so true
 
That would be great if it had Showman engraved on the tip of the pin. Very nice looking cue.
 
Fedunka?

Could the cuemaker have been Mike Fedunka or Verl Horn?

Probably not a Verl Horn...it's 57 1/2", Horns were 58". Also it's piloted and Horns were flat-faced.

I've heard of Fedunka, but can find nothing about him. Is (was?) he the guy who bought Balabushkas equipment?
 
Probably not a Verl Horn...it's 57 1/2", Horns were 58". Also it's piloted and Horns were flat-faced.

I've heard of Fedunka, but can find nothing about him. Is (was?) he the guy who bought Balabushkas equipment?

I doubt it was Fedunka, he was of an earlier era than this cue appears. The points on most Fedunka cues are much shorter than this one. I believe Pete Tascarella aquired Balabushka's equipment, though I don't know if it was all of it.
 
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