One Pocket Gambling Rule

[JoeyA]

What rule do you use for spotting balls?

You owe two balls. It is your inning at the table and you run all of the available balls off of the table but still owe TWO balls either from scratches are perhaps because of the spot you are giving. Your opponent still needs one ball.

1. Spot both balls simultaneously when there are no more balls to shoot at.

2. Or spot one ball at a time.

I assumed this was a no brainer but there are those who have other opinions so I wanted to hear yours.
JoeyA

 

[nfty9er]

There should not be other opiniions

What rule do you use for spotting balls?

You owe two balls. It is your inning at the table and you run all of the available balls off of the table but still owe TWO balls either from scratches are perhaps because of the spot you are giving. Your opponent still needs one ball.

1. Spot both balls simultaneously when there are no more balls to shoot at.

2. Or spot one ball at a time.

I assumed this was a no brainer but there are those who have other opinions so I wanted to hear yours.
JoeyA

A rule is a rule. You spot both balls. (no brainer) check out onepocket.org for all the official rules of 1p. No other opinions allowed.

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

Who ME ?

What rule do you use for spotting balls?

You owe two balls. It is your inning at the table and you run all of the available balls off of the table but still owe TWO balls either from scratches are perhaps because of the spot you are giving. Your opponent still needs one ball.

1. Spot both balls simultaneously when there are no more balls to shoot at.

2. Or spot one ball at a time.

I assumed this was a no brainer but there are those who have other opinions so I wanted to hear yours.
JoeyA

The way that they do it around here is:
As you walk around the table, you 'accidently' scoop or knock the coins off the table and then DENY owing any balls and demand to be paid immediately.
Doug
( if questioned, put a stupid look on your face and deny, deny, DENY )

 

[cuetable]

What rule do you use for spotting balls?

You owe two balls. It is your inning at the table and you run all of the available balls off of the table but still owe TWO balls either from scratches are perhaps because of the spot you are giving. Your opponent still needs one ball.

1. Spot both balls simultaneously when there are no more balls to shoot at.

2. Or spot one ball at a time.

I assumed this was a no brainer but there are those who have other opinions so I wanted to hear yours.
JoeyA

Interesting question, imo I think #1 would be more logical. Does the rule book say anything about this?

 

[seymore15074]

You can't spot any balls that you owe until your inning is over, so you clear the table and then both balls come up...but does that mean it's still your turn and you just hosed yourself? or does making all of the balls on the table end your inning?

 

[nfty9er]

Come on seymore, you know the only way your inning ends is of you miss or foul. This is silly. People go to onepocket.org for all the rules. This is a no brainer. The rules cover this specifically.

 

[seymore15074]

Come on seymore, you know the only way your inning ends is of you miss or foul. This is silly. People go to onepocket.org for all the rules. This is a no brainer. The rules cover this specifically.

Right on. Forgive me...

 

[nfty9er]

It might win u the game

You can't spot any balls that you owe until your inning is over, so you clear the table and then both balls come up...but does that mean it's still your turn and you just hosed yourself? or does making all of the balls on the table end your inning?

It is not a matter of gettng hosed since you should know a ball or even two need to be spotted. It could work in your favor. As a simple example say you need 2 balls and you are straight in on one into your pocket and the last ball is hanging in the side behind you. So you make the ball, draw back and make the ball in the side with the cue. It spots and you are straight in again on your game ball. In that case it helped you.

 

[Andrew Manning]

You can't spot any balls that you owe until your inning is over, so you clear the table and then both balls come up...but does that mean it's still your turn and you just hosed yourself? or does making all of the balls on the table end your inning?

It's still your turn, but hopefully you left yourself in position to play a good shot once the two balls are on the spot. Some people like to be right above them, so they can hit the ball on the spot and stick the CB and the spot ball in place, with the ball behind going to the bottom rail and coming back up, preferably snugging back up to be totally safe. If you're not in prefect position to accomplish that, you want to be in position to bank the second ball toward your hole (missing on the pro side) and send the CB in front of his hole. Really there are any number of workable shots you can take on those two spotted balls depending on where you end up.

-Andrew

 

[ShootingArts]

I favor Doug's solution

I think Doug has the right idea, shift coins and deny anything and everything! Unfortunately I think that the rules do cover this and you have to spot both balls at once.

Of course there are few if any rules when gambling so you may want to make these little details clear early on. The problem is that someone can always come up with something odd, it's impossible to cover everything before playing.

Still many months before the doc's will let me consider bending over. Bored stiff but at least I'm still on the good stuff that they gave me after surgery! It does make typing words tough.

Hu

 

[Flex]

I think Doug has the right idea, shift coins and deny anything and everything! Unfortunately I think that the rules do cover this and you have to spot both balls at once.

Right you are!

Here is the relevant rule:

"9.2 Any penalty balls owed by the shooter, or balls pocketed in a neutral pocket, are to be spotted at the end of the shooter’s inning. However, if a player runs off all the balls on the table without reaching a winning score, then all such balls are spotted immediately (all at once, not one ball at a time), and the shooter continues their inning. At no other time in One Pocket are balls spotted during any shooter’s ongoing inning."

Flex

 

[JoeyA]

Right you are!

Here is the relevant rule:

"9.2 Any penalty balls owed by the shooter, or balls pocketed in a neutral pocket, are to be spotted at the end of the shooter’s inning. However, if a player runs off all the balls on the table without reaching a winning score, then all such balls are spotted immediately (all at once, not one ball at a time), and the shooter continues their inning. At no other time in One Pocket are balls spotted during any shooter’s ongoing inning."

Flex

I'm not sure that penalty balls rule covers the situation if the balls owed are spotted balls but it certainly makes sense. I don't think the rules actually cover situations where balls are spotted for gambling purposes.

Gamblers often have rules that negate some of the benefits of a spot. I was wondering what the gamblers would say about the situation if the spotted balls were balls owed because of the spot. I don't see any difference in the two situations but wondered if there were any gamblers who might take the perspective that one ball at a time should be spotted.

I know if your inning ends, all balls owed are immediately spotted if available, so logic dictates that the same would be true if your inning is interrupted by no more balls on the table.
JoeyA

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

When You Wake Up

Still many months before the doc's will let me consider bending over. Bored stiff but at least I'm still on the good stuff that they gave me after surgery!
It does make typing words tough.
Hu

Don't type your replies, just do as I do. Sit there and SCREAM at your monitor.
Doug
( it's easy, try it )

 

[ShootingArts]

doesn't work for me . . .

My monitor is hooked up to a dish and is my television also. It has been ignoring me screaming at it for years!

I'll give it another try come Superbowl time though, I know the officials can hear twenty million of us screaming at them to review something inside the two minute warning.

Hu

Don't type your replies, just do as I do. Sit there and SCREAM at your monitor.
Doug
( it's easy, try it )