One Pocket handbook?
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Just google 'one pocket'..there are a ton of rules and explanations! :thumbup:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=One+Pocket+Billiard+Rules&FORM=QSRE6
https://www.bing.com/search?q=How+to+Play+One+Pocket&FORM=QSRE1
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join onepocket.org
here is alink to the rules from that site
above the title of the rules you will see a heading "playing the game"
you find what you are looking for there
http://www.onepocket.org/one_pocket_pool_rules.htm
here is alink to the rules from that site
above the title of the rules you will see a heading "playing the game"
you find what you are looking for there
http://www.onepocket.org/one_pocket_pool_rules.htm
Go to your local pool room and find the guys who are playing One Pocket. Sit quietly, and watch them play.
Like Dick said, there is a wealth of information out there regarding One Pocket.
Scott Frost's videos are good although may have more meaning down the road.
All of Grady Mathews stuff is good.
If you can find them, Willie Jopling, aka: Bill Marshall, has some of the best beginner One Pocket material available.
Don't waste your money on instructors. The learning curve is far too long. Play and practice, practice and play.
Like Dick said, there is a wealth of information out there regarding One Pocket.
Scott Frost's videos are good although may have more meaning down the road.
All of Grady Mathews stuff is good.
If you can find them, Willie Jopling, aka: Bill Marshall, has some of the best beginner One Pocket material available.
Don't waste your money on instructors. The learning curve is far too long. Play and practice, practice and play.
These are from several years back. May have changed but might help:
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OFFICIAL RULES OF PLAY DERBY CITY CLASSIC
Presented by Horseshoe Casino and Hotel
One Pocket Rules
Format: Race to 3; single elimination; one buy-back option.
Lag for First Break: Winner of the lag decides who breaks first.
Breaking subsequent games: Players will alternate the break.
Legal Break: A legal break requires you to pocket a ball or drive at least one object ball or the cue ball to a cushion after contact. Failure to do so is a foul.
Scratch or Foul: Any scratch or foul results in loss of a ball. If you have no balls to spot, you “owe” a ball. You must spot what you owe at the end of your next inning in which you have balls available to spot. If a scratch or foul is “slept” and subsequently remembered, the ball is spotted after each player has shot once.
Trapping or Wedging the Cue Ball: It is a foul if you deliberately trap or wedge the cue ball in the jaw of the pocket. In addition to the foul penalty, your opponent receives cue ball in hand behind the head string.
Deliberate Cue Ball Foul: If you wish to take a deliberate cue ball foul, you must use your cue tip to strike the cue ball. If you strike the cue ball with anything other than the cue tip, in addition to the foul penalty, your opponent receives cue ball in hand behind the head string.
Shooting into the Wrong Pocket: If a player shoots into the wrong pocket and continues to shoot because their opponent failed to notify them of the error, any additional balls pocketed in that inning do not count, whether pocketed for the shooter’s or the opponent. The first shot to the wrong pocket in a given inning is the shooter’s responsibility, and the opponent is entitled to any balls pocketed on that first stroke. However, any other pocketed balls in the wrong pocket in the same inning are to be spotted as illegally pocketed balls.
3-Foul Rule: If you commit 3 successive fouls in one game you lose the game. Your opponent must notify you that you are on 2 fouls immediately before your next inning.
Slow Play: Slow play will not be tolerated. Tournament officials will issue a warning if they feel you are delaying the progress of the match. A second warning will result in ball in hand anywhere on the table. A third warning is loss of game. A fourth occurrence is loss of match.
All Balls are Behind the Head String with Cue Ball in Hand: Should this occur, the ball closest to the head string is spotted. If 2 or more balls are the same distance from the head string, the shooter will designate which ball to spot.
Player Etiquette: Whenever possible, you must be seated when your opponent is at the table. Intentionally distracting your opponent when it is their turn is unsportsmanlike conduct and will be penalized accordingly.
Cell Phones and Flash Photos: Players must turn off their cell phones or place them on silent while playing their match. Flash photography is prohibited.
Smoking Policy: Smoking is prohibited in all tournament playing areas, including the action room, other special event areas, and anywhere there are tables for play or practice. You may smoke in designated areas only.
Forfeit Time: Once your match is announced, you have 15 minutes to be at your match table with your equipment or you lose the match by forfeit.
Time-out: You are allowed one five-minute time out per match. You may only take a time out when it is your turn at the table, either during a game or in between games. Your opponent may leave the playing area during your time-out, but they must be back when you are ready to resume play or they will lose their time out if they have not already used it.
During your time out, if it is between games and your opponent remains in the playing area they may hit balls on the match table while you are away, but neither player may practice on another table inside or outside the playing area.
Calling a Referee: The non-shooting player is responsible for calling a referee to watch a shot. The shooter must wait for the referee before taking the shot. Failure to do so is a foul. The decision of the referee or tournament official is final.
Rack Your Own: All events require you to rack your own. Players may not agree to do otherwise.
No Rail Foul: After contact, either the cue ball or an object ball must be driven to a rail or it is a foul.
Cue Ball Fouls Only: Accidentally touching or disturbing a single object ball is not a foul unless the disturbed ball has an effect on the outcome of the shot. See a referee for advice if you think this has happened. Otherwise, the opponent has the option to restore the disturbed ball or leave it in position. If the offending player attempts to restore the disturbed ball without giving their opponent the restoration option, it is a foul.
Accidentally touching or disturbing 2 or more object balls is a foul, and there is no restoration option for the disturbed balls.
Jump Cues: Prohibited. Must jump with playing cue only.
One Foot on the Floor. You must have one foot on the floor when the cue tip strikes the cue ball or it is a foul.
Ball in the Kitchen: The “base of the ball” rule does not apply. To be playable, object balls must be completely out of the kitchen. The edge of the ball may not touch or overlap the head string even if the base of the ball is completely outside the kitchen. The decision of the referee is final.
Spotting Balls; Declaring Frozen Balls: You may call a tournament official to spot balls or declare frozen balls. Balls not declared frozen prior to a shot are not considered frozen.
Double Hits, Push Shots, Miscues: Object balls frozen to the cue ball or very close to the cue ball require you to elevate the cue approximately 45 degrees to stroke the shot. This will be considered a legal shot even though a double hit may occur. Even with an elevated cue, you cannot place the cue tip on the cue ball and shove it forward or it will be called a push shot and result in a foul. An unintentional miscue is not a foul. An intentional miscue is a foul.
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Lou Figueroa
Go to your local pool room and find the guys .....
Don't waste your money on instructors. The learning curve is far too long. Play and practice, practice and play.
Everyone is different and so is the advice given. There is nothing like a qualified instructor to get a player going faster and in the right direction. Learn to break, take balls out, patterns, drills and some general thinking. Learn how to play the beginning, middle of game, up table game,and end of game. As for myself I'm giving my cash to an instructor.
After you get started play stronger players to gain table experience. You will enjoy 1p more if you know what you are looking for. In the beginning I kept shooting everything up table and taking wrong/risky sell out shots. Still do sometimes but getting better. Much better.
Consider buying Tom Wirth's book. One Pocket... A game of controlled aggression.
And watch YouTube matches. Learn right from the beginning and have fun.
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Do you really believe that you can throw money at an instructor and "poof", all of a sudden you're a One Pocket player? What color is the sky in your world?
You must have missed the part about an extended learning curve, so suffice it to say that learning to play One Pocket well, can take half a lifetime, or more, or more..........
I would spend as much time as you can watching us open and galveston world classic youtube videos over and over. Just pay attention to the commentary and soak up as much as you can.
Hard times one pocket too, where 'box" commentates. He trys to educate as much as he can.
Hard times one pocket too, where 'box" commentates. He trys to educate as much as he can.
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Sky color. I'm from LoveTron. You are mostly likely a stronger player than I am.... And you have a better humor. Maybe I expressed myself wrong(as usual). How about lessons might be a good way to begin for some people. Fair enough? I might have to contact English to elaborate. Lessons vs no lessons were his specialty in 10,000 words or more.
I never said a player goes to the big top after a lesson.
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No, you were fine. If I was somewhat harsh in my reply it's because I've been playing pool since I was 15, and for the past almost 20 years, One Pocket only.
Learning how to play One Pocket is one thing, but being able to play the game well is an entirely different matter.
If a person was a millionaire with a spare bedroom then an instructor might be of some benefit, but even then you had better start calling him Uncle Efren, because he's going to be living with you for quite awhile.
The OP's original question was,"Does anyone have a handbook on One Pocket?" As if all you needed was an instruction manual.
tramp
of course a lesson with efren doesnt get you to play like efren
thats a no brainer
but lessons with a qualified player can help you fast forward the learning curve
imho
one pocket is a blend of knowledge and execution
to me
execution skills take time on the table and practice..thats a given
but being at the table with a pro and having him explain what to do in any situation
is experience you dont get watching you tube or "playing better players"
" you dont know what you dont know "
because you are at the table and he explains the weakness in your choice
and why this shot is better
it seems to "stick " better at the table
beleive it or not
many time the better shot IS in the skill set of the student
THEY JUST DIDNT SEE IT
sometimes its above thier paygrade and they have to practice to learn it
so i wouldnt discount the instructor path
for the record
i take lessons from tom wirth
(not as regularly as goldcrown...:angry:
)and he has helped my onepocket game ALOT
thanks tom.....:thumbup:
p,s. if you dont have his book BUY IT
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5224073&postcount=1
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No, you were fine. If I was somewhat harsh in my reply it's because I've been playing pool since I was 15, and for the past almost 20 years, One Pocket only.
Learning how to play One Pocket is one thing, but being able to play the game well is an entirely different matter.
If a person was a millionaire with a spare bedroom then an instructor might be of some benefit, but even then you had better start calling him Uncle Efren, because he's going to be living with you for quite awhile.
The OP's original question was,"Does anyone have a handbook on One Pocket?" As if all you needed was an instruction manual.
Let's just say I know what works for me. I'm an extremely slow learner and cannot learn certain things on my own...Golf, etc.
I wanted to learn 1p and had no idea where to start. I play with guys that I cannot learn from so I sought an instructor.....and found a great one that knows how to communicate. An instructor can teach x amount but agreed..... the game has to learned by playing it.
The OP looking for a handbook. I did the same. Bought Upscale 1P. Learned absolutely nothing. People also suggested that I get into a money match and I'll learn fast. Rather pay an instructor to jump start me. That works for me... was simply suggesting it to the OP as an alternative/option. I was fortunate to connect with bbb and he connected me with Tom Wirth. I have as much fun taking lessons as I do playing an afternoon match.
I went from nowhere to about a C level after a few years. I can play good enough to have fun and my goal is to play a respectable game. I have growing pains and improving.
You where harsh to me but I'm ok. I am married. There is nothing you or anyone can do to hurt me as I'm used to pain.
Seriously.... I think all and every bit of feedback the OP gets will help him get rolling. Hopefully he takes the game seriously....It's the only game I enjoy playing. It's a game in game. It's a game of creativity. The only game where we play our opponent and the table. It's a constant exchange of moves...no sitting and watching racks being run. 1p never leaves the mind. And the more I write the more I think the OP should run.
And to member bbb......King nit is offering 8-7 :killingme::killingme:
Some advanced stuff but shows what can be done for an out. Tom has a special gift.
He stress's to be aggressive. Make 8 ball first and fast. Turn defense into offense, set traps, use the mitt.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FDmPyLMclcMphTP2VnYyA
He stress's to be aggressive. Make 8 ball first and fast. Turn defense into offense, set traps, use the mitt.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FDmPyLMclcMphTP2VnYyA
Gold Crown is big on taking lessons and he has absolutely fallen in love with one pocket. What works for one player does not work for another. He and I play during the summer months when he is up north. We usually start out with 9 ball or 14.1 and we always end up playing one pocket which is not my game. I will say Gold Crown's overall game has improved greatly from last year by taking lessons. Where ya been buddy?
PS. Watched some great one pocket players at the 1st annual Philadelphia one pocket championship at Classic Billiards. Watching some of those guys play the game is like watching wizardry.
PS. Watched some great one pocket players at the 1st annual Philadelphia one pocket championship at Classic Billiards. Watching some of those guys play the game is like watching wizardry.
What continually amazes me is when I see a very good player totally overlook an obvious shot (a good one) in One Pocket. Some of the best safeties are little bunt shots where the cue ball rolls only a few inches. So many times I've seen players go for outrageous shots and overlook a simple safety that was right there.
There are other basic One Pocket moves and strategy (like banking balls into the correct side of the pack and not at your hole) that most all beginning to intermediate players know nothing about. I could go on and on but suffice to say that a little good instruction can go a long way in speeding up the learning curve. It won't help in the execution of shots but it will assist a player in not overlooking some good options.
P.S. When all else fails leave your opponent down table and straight in! That may sound obvious but I've seen good players overlook this option and play some crazy shot trying to get out of a trap.
There are other basic One Pocket moves and strategy (like banking balls into the correct side of the pack and not at your hole) that most all beginning to intermediate players know nothing about. I could go on and on but suffice to say that a little good instruction can go a long way in speeding up the learning curve. It won't help in the execution of shots but it will assist a player in not overlooking some good options.
P.S. When all else fails leave your opponent down table and straight in! That may sound obvious but I've seen good players overlook this option and play some crazy shot trying to get out of a trap.
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Go to your local pool room and find the guys who are playing One Pocket. Sit quietly, and watch them play.
Like Dick said, there is a wealth of information out there regarding One Pocket.
Scott Frost's videos are good although may have more meaning down the road.
All of Grady Mathews stuff is good.
If you can find them, Willie Jopling, aka: Bill Marshall, has some of the best beginner One Pocket material available.
Don't waste your money on instructors. The learning curve is far too long. Play and practice, practice and play.
I had a guy come in to the pool hall one day who wanted to play. He told me how he had played another local guy so I ended up giving him a decent spot for $10 a game and I still won handily. So the next time he comes in he tells me that he wants to play again but this time he wants to *pay me* $10 a game if I will explain my shot selection and tell him what he should do in response. It was a good session for both of us.
Lou Figueroa
OK, maybe better
for moi
I've seen that happen where I play. The 'pay me' part was when two guys gambled, one would learn from the other by losing. It never worked out. The loser would eventually get tire of losing, and paying, and quit.
I have, over the years, read every available book about One Pocket, including Winning One Pocket, and Shots, Moves, & Strategies. I have also owned, at one time or another, all the good videos.
Lou, you and I both know that One Pocket isn't like any of other games in pool. It takes skill and commitment, with a big emphasis on commitment, and it's a long and drawn out one at that.
And, Helfert, you're only taking the high road on this. You should know better.
tramp
are you trying to say you cannot shorten the learning curve by getting the benefit of someone elses experience to open up your eyes and not have to re invent or find the reference to get better at one pocket??
c'mon man...
