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kryptonite9

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I was playing last night giving 9-6. I have the top pocket. My opponent looked to compeletly sell out, but fluked into this spot. I had 6 he had 3. We both need 3. I couldn't kick around the 10 ball to make the 2. The 11 ball was dead straight and we were playing on a triple shimmed table that is real tight.

The above table shows what I did, I acutally made the two railer and his ball, but scratched following the 2 ball in. I am not a great one pocket player, really new to the game so any help is appreciated. If this shot looks crazy and like I am mad at my money, don't cook me too bad.

Other than shooting the 3,4,11 and possibly selling out the game is there any other move. Maybe it is just time to fire?

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
Yes.

Three balls spotted, the score was 5-3. He made the 10 and drew over, made the 4 and soon enough all balls were uptable. I needed 4, him needing 1.
 
shoot the 10 into the rail just before the 2 ball. It will carom the 2 in and send the 10 towards your pocket. You may even get lucky and make the 10 off of the bottom of the 4 ball. If 10 doesnt go, and you stop the cueball, you will put him in a tough spot. JMO

Southpaw
 
Southpaw said:
shoot the 10 into the rail just before the 2 ball. It will carom the 2 in and send the 10 towards your pocket. You may even get lucky and make the 10 off of the bottom of the 4 ball. If 10 doesnt go, and you stop the cueball, you will put him in a tough spot. JMO

Southpaw
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I like this shot too, but tried it twice afterward and the 10 ball missed everything after making the 2, selling out a free bank on the 9 playing position for the 4.

Well at least I didn't miss something compeltely obvious, which I tend to do playing this game.

I didn't want to shoot at the 3 and bet the entire game on that shot. I don't shoot straight enough to not sell out most of the time shooting that shot.
 
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kryptonite9 said:
I like this shot too, but tried it twice afterward and the 10 ball missed everything after making the 2, selling out a free bank on the 9 playing position for the 4.

Well at least I didn't miss something compeltely obvious, which I tend to do playing this game.

I didn't want to shoot at the 3 and bet the entire game on that shot. I don't shoot straight enough to not sell out most of the time shooting that shot.
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I think you did the right thing. Playing a weaker player & giving up a handicap, you did well to clear his hole, even if it means selling out the 4-ball bank.

Playing a better player and getting the spot, I think the 3-ball is the only shot.
 
I think what you did was alright but a little chancy. I would have hit the cue ball with some right bottom in the hopes that might keep it from following in after the two. However not making the nine or not putting it into position to guard against the bank on the four could lose the game.

Another solution would have been to play rail first and then off the ten to pocket the two meanwhile sending the ten to block off the possible bank on the four. If this is workable and not too difficult I would prefer it.
 
I'm not that good at one pocket but would it be possible to make the 3 down the rail and try to pocket the 2 if you get the 3 pretty close and make the 2 you might mess up the bank on the 4.
just an idea,
will
 
I'm not a very good one-pocket player, but I do enjoy studying these layouts. One shot that hasn't been mentioned yet (sorry, I typed too slowly and didn't see dabarbr mentioning this shot) is to play a tickie to move the 10 over and pocket the 2. If the speed is right, the 10 may block banks as well. Obviously, the scratch is still in play on this shot, but if you don't have the angle for playing the 10 rail-first into the 2, then this shot would seem like a viable alternative.

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Aaron
 
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Southpaw said:
shoot the 10 into the rail just before the 2 ball. It will carom the 2 in and send the 10 towards your pocket. You may even get lucky and make the 10 off of the bottom of the 4 ball. If 10 doesnt go, and you stop the cueball, you will put him in a tough spot. JMO

Southpaw
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I agree with this one, unless I am way up on games and feeling good then I would go with Neil's response to make the three and run out.

-don
 
dabarbr and Aaron,

Thanks,
This is one that I did not see and really like. Worst case if the two doesn't go there is a possibility that position after the 2 could be at least a little tricky and I would only sell out 1 ball. I think the 10 was out a little too far, but this is very useful anway.

I acutally nutted the shot I hit, but the fact that it was unsuccessful made me think of other ways to play it. I really wanted to shoot the 3, as I am much more of a shooter than mover, but really didn't want to bet the game on 1 shot.

Keith
 
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I acutally nutted the shot I hit, but the fact that it was unsuccessful made me think of other ways to play it. I really wanted to shoot the 3, as I am much more of a shooter than mover, but really didn't want to bet the game on 1 shot.
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The size of the pockets would have probably been deciding factor for me on this shot. That 3-ball is not a hanger for me, but, depending on the score, I might have fired at it on a table with buckets. With everything in play, though, it'd basically be betting the farm on that one shot, like you said. I think I would have done what you decided to do and try to drop the 2 and add something a little bit productive along with it.

The reason I like the tickie a little better than the carom off of the 9 is that I can roll the ball instead of having to hit a lengthy, controlled draw shot. Plus, there are several ways I could mis-hit the carom and end up on the short end of things, like by scratching or selling out a bank on the 4 or the 10 or perhaps another ball that the 9 runs into on it's way back down-table. But the shot that's right for one person may not be right for another.

Thanks for posting the layout; we haven't seen enough of these lately IMO.

Aaron
 
kryptonite9 said:
I didn't want to shoot at the 3 and bet the entire game on that shot. I don't shoot straight enough to not sell out most of the time shooting that shot.
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Yeah, and you'll probably see responses that say they'd shoot the 3 and run the table etc... like it's a hanger. That 3 is a tough shot. It's not super tough but it's tough enough when you're under pressure of selling out the game if you miss it. I like the idea of the tickie that someone mentioned but again, it is so easy to miss at the speed you're going to want to shoot it at. I don't think banking the 9 two rails is the best shot but I do like the idea of getting the cue ball snuggled up against the bottom of that 2 ball.

I may have shot the 11 straight in and worked out something from there. Again, not the easiest shot when the chance of selling out the game is there.
MULLY
 
get in your car and drive to Quakertown! :D

we'll have you up to speed in no time.....

G.
 
mullyman said:
Yeah, and you'll probably see responses that say they'd shoot the 3 and run the table etc... like it's a hanger. That 3 is a tough shot. It's not super tough but it's tough enough when you're under pressure of selling out the game if you miss it. I like the idea of the tickie that someone mentioned but again, it is so easy to miss at the speed you're going to want to shoot it at. I don't think banking the 9 two rails is the best shot but I do like the idea of getting the cue ball snuggled up against the bottom of that 2 ball.

I may have shot the 11 straight in and worked out something from there. Again, not the easiest shot when the chance of selling out the game is there.
MULLY
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Agreed. Some asked before, how tight is the table. It is a triple shimmed Brunswick. Two balls do not fit in the pocket and for some reason it plays alot tighter down the rails. I don't think I would like playing against any player that fires in the three without thinking, that would be very strong.

I really like the tickie and will try it as soon as I get to a table.

Thanks all for the suggestions.
 
Gerry said:
get in your car and drive to Quakertown! :D

we'll have you up to speed in no time.....

G.
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How much would you like to bet sir? Not others in your room, but you!!!!!

I will get up soon, been trying to expand the horizons, but really dont like gambling with that monster kid up there. And I know that is who I will probably play.
 
kryptonite9 said:
How much would you like to bet sir? Not others in your room, but you!!!!!

I will get up soon, been trying to expand the horizons, but really dont like gambling with that monster kid up there. And I know that is who I will probably play.
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I'll play you even up for cheap $25 a rack if you want. I havnt been up there in a couple of weeks....its the busy season for me. I am having my table set up here at the house in the next week or so....double shimmed with tourney blue 860.

quakertown has a nice wedged up 1 hole table you would like...just covered a few weeks back.

G.
 
Aaron_S said:
I'm not a very good one-pocket player, but I do enjoy studying these layouts. One shot that hasn't been mentioned yet (sorry, I typed too slowly and didn't see dabarbr mentioning this shot) is to play a tickie to move the 10 over and pocket the 2. If the speed is right, the 10 may block banks as well. Obviously, the scratch is still in play on this shot, but if you don't have the angle for playing the 10 rail-first into the 2, then this shot would seem like a viable alternative.

Aaron
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Great shot if it's laying right. I need weight.
 
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