One-Pocket Situation

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I thought that this shot looked familiar and low and behold I found it in the 'Shots, Moves, & Strategies' book; it's actually the very first shot covered. The solution they posted was the 4-rail path going above the 9 and resting on the short rail by the opponents pocket close to the 6/7. From the book:

"Even advanced one pocket players often overlook such thinly hit cross-corner bank shots."
 
Black-Balled said:
NO you wouldn't. You have to play the CB here and to move the 8 to your side would require too hard a hit.
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Not on the lightning-fast tables we have in G.R.
 
jjr183 said:
I thought that this shot looked familiar and low and behold I found it in the 'Shots, Moves, & Strategies' book; it's actually the very first shot covered. The solution they posted was the 4-rail path going above the 9 and resting on the short rail by the opponents pocket close to the 6/7. From the book:

"Even advanced one pocket players often overlook such thinly hit cross-corner bank shots."
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I forgot to add that the shot was 4 rails OFF the 8-ball bank shot.
 
If I remember that shot correctly from the book, there wasn't a straight back waiting to be made and 4-5 runnable balls for your opponent. You got no strength on your side in this diagram.. If you try making the bank and sell out the 9, this game is done for.

Russ
 
jjr183 said:
I forgot to add that the shot was 4 rails OFF the 8-ball bank shot.
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If you bank any of those balls down by your hole and don't hide it behind the 6/7 you are looking at a bigger trap from behind the two or even a chance to leave a bank to the 6/7 with a safety. I will concede that the 4 rail kick, taking a scratch, is as good as the two rail, but one of those shots is the best IMO. John Henderson
 
Blackjack said:
i think moving the 1 or the 8 would leave my opponent too many options, so I figure repositioning the cue ball down near his pocket would be the smart here.
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But what if you could move both the 1 & the 8. I'm not sure if the situation allows for it (if the 5 has us hooked from aiming at the left side of the 8), but moving both the 8 and the 1 should be considered. The shot would move the 1 to the bottom rail on our side, the 8 by the side pocket on our side, and move the cue ball towards his pocket, blocking him from seeing our lone ranger near the hole.
 
Russ Chewning said:
If I remember that shot correctly from the book, there wasn't a straight back waiting to be made and 4-5 runnable balls for your opponent. You got no strength on your side in this diagram.. If you try making the bank and sell out the 9, this game is done for.

Russ
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The only difference between this shot and the one in the book is that the 1 can only be hit about 1/4 ball and not straight on. The 1, 5 and 8 were still about the same interfering with each other and the 9's banking lanes.

I think that the difference in the fullness of hit that is possible on the 1 is why others do not think that coming off the 8 is best. The way it is diagrammed, you may hit the 1 coming off the 8 with the thinness of the hit that you would need to go around the 9.
 
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