One-Pocket - what do you do?

I like shooting the 10 into the 1 & 6 ball to clear up that cluster in front of my pocket, leaving the cue ball on his side of the stack...
 
trendkill said:
I like shooting the 10 into the 1 & 6 ball to clear up that cluster in front of my pocket, leaving the cue ball on his side of the stack...
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Trend , I like your thought process , however, is the nine going to hit the rack and knock something to the other side giving the other guy a shot. Ican see the cue ball stopping after hitting the nine . I would shoot the nine and leave the cueball on the ball on the rail. Of course my shot is probably the wrong way to play. Also I was from the Houston area and shoot with an Olivier also. I shot at Legends all the time. What is your real name.---Smitty
 
At a quick glance I can't see why this wouldn't be a good shot... I don't even try to pocket the 9, just play the CB and get the 9 near the hole...

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And this would be my shot if I was playing for free... all day! :)

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I'd do it this way to leave distance, no banks, and hide him on the balls closest to my hole.


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I like shooting the 9 with a high ball and no english. You may be able to float down and get the 13 next and even get enough angle to break out the cluster on your side of the table. And if you miss, you really do not sell out alot. JMO.

Southpaw
 
I like a combination of AZE's and Gerry's (and maybe a coupla other one pocket consultants). The risk, of course, is scratching in the corner, so avoiding that is job one. The breakout is automatic with the 9/10 carom setup.

pj
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AZE said:
At a quick glance I can't see why this wouldn't be a good shot... I don't even try to pocket the 9, just play the CB and get the 9 near the hole...

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That's the shot I like. The 9 rolls down near the hole, and the CB banks off the side rail and freezes on the stack. The opponent is left with nothing but deep trouble.:cool:

Doc
 
I agree ...

AZE said:
At a quick glance I can't see why this wouldn't be a good shot... I don't even try to pocket the 9, just play the CB and get the 9 near the hole...

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I agree the shot here is not to make the 9, but to put your opponent in a position where you have balls high, low, and they are stuck and shooting towards your hole.

AZE...I have not had a chance to play around with the bank we discussed... any luck yet??

Mark
 
Gerry & Patrick.... I have to disagree with those

Gerry that shot just sells out, alot.

Patrick, while the thought process "move ball near hole, open cluster near hole, stick CB to stack" is a good one, the actual shot is probably way too much risk over reward.
you are likely running into the 11 and selling out a 'clean his hole' or a bank.

Edit: Bluesteel, I hit it a few more times, actually got it to go once. I get it to bend towards the pocket maybe like 3/10, and I'll stick with saying I can probably pocket it 1/50. I just am not focusing enough on where exactly I need to hit it, how much ball, and how much speed... but I will find it out.
I'll just ask Monster if he knows it.
 
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AZE said:
Gerry & Patrick.... I have to disagree with those

Gerry that shot just sells out, alot.
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sell out? nah, maybe if I scratch, but the main reason for the shot is distance. All the shots where you try to leave the cue ball on the stack have the chance of bumping something out for a bank/combo/carom and leave the guy close to his work which I never like.
 
If you want to be real aggressive I would two rail kick the 11 ball with medium speed hitting the correct side of the 11 ball to send the cue ball up the table.
 
Gerry said:
sell out? nah, maybe if I scratch, but the main reason for the shot is distance. All the shots where you try to leave the cue ball on the stack have the chance of bumping something out for a bank/combo/carom and leave the guy close to his work which I never like.
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????????? Are you joking?
How can you be worried about putting the CB into the stack here? It's not like you're firing the CB into it...

And how are you not selling out. As per your diagram you leave the 10, and even if the 10 moves when you thin the 9 (which it probably does) you're leaving the 7.... either way you're leaving a free shot for the opp to make a ball, get shape, he isn't risking selling out..unless he plays it super bad and leaves you a bank and somehow doesn't have a ball near his hole... which doesn't happen.

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This is the shot from Incardona's instructional video:

The idea is to hit the 10-ball, then the 9-ball. This will send both balls down to your pocket/the cluster + the cueball in the rail then into the stack.

Perhaps the layout is a little bit different from the video (it's not much different), but many on here got the idea already so the layout can't be too bad ;)

Anyway, it's a great video you've made Billy. Thanks

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Gum9Ball said:
If you want to be real aggressive I would two rail kick the 11 ball with medium speed hitting the correct side of the 11 ball to send the cue ball up the table.
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I like this shot if I'm behind in score, if the opp was a WAY better mover than me, or if I was giving up a big spot (which never ever happens). I just think it's too risky for a 0-0 game vs. an avg. opponent.

I actually think the 15 is dead off of the 12. But you also risk scratching up top

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Roy Steffensen said:
This is the shot from Incardona's instructional video:

The idea is to hit the 10-ball, then the 9-ball. This will send both balls down to your pocket/the cluster + the cueball in the rail then into the stack.

Perhaps the layout is a little bit different from the video (it's not much different), but many on here got the idea already so the layout can't be too bad ;)

Anyway, it's a great video you've made Billy. Thanks
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Yea, the diagram seems off... my initial inclination was exactly this shot, but the cue-ball doesn't come off of that angle if you hit 10/9 carom. Looks a lot more like a scratch in the side.

Funny how such a small change can effect the game.
 
AZE:
Patrick, while the thought process "move ball near hole, open cluster near hole, stick CB to stack" is a good one, the actual shot is probably way too much risk over reward. you are likely running into the 11 and selling out a 'clean his hole' or a bank.
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You could be right about the 11 - hard to tell from a diagram. If I had to put some right side on the CB to miss the 11 I wouldn't shoot that shot (too risky using sidespin off the rail).

Now that I've seen Billy's shot I like that one the best - hitting the 10 and then the 9 helps the CB carom more naturally to the side rail behind the stack, whereas hitting the 9 first the CB would go more toward the corner (can't hit it low off the rail), maybe drifting down below the stack. Did you try that 9-ball shot?

pj
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I personally prefer kicking the 10 into the 6 and unclogging all of that congestion. You would have to be very unfortunate to go into the 11 enough to free up a bank or clearance shot and remember that the 9 is going to be entering the area of the banking lanes. Some other good things about doing this is that it gives you control of the upper part of the table and you will have balls that go into your pocket from both the long and short sides (if the 9 goes that far down table).

I may be thinking this way because I have been in many situations where I actually moved too many balls to my side of the table and then couldn't make a ball after my opponent blundered because of the type of congestion that is on this table before the shot with not even a decent combo or in-off.
 
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