Opinion on Most Powerful Shot/Stroke that Gives You an Advantage

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Get_A_Grip

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As some of you know, I've been playing a lot of bar pool lately for small amounts. When practicing today, I was thinking about what type of shot/stroke might be giving me an advantage over the average good bar player.

For me, I've come to the conclusion that it's the drag-draw stroke. It occurred to me that I use this stroke/shot very often to get optimal position on many shots...and I just don't see the average bar player use this stroke/shot at all.

Just curious what everyone else's opinion is.
 
I agree
The drag draw stroke (ESPECIALLY IN HUMID CONDITIONS!), and the punch follow. (for position that is in inches)

2 toughest shots to master. if you ask me
 
Replace the Ball Shot

In bar pool, I think it is the "replace the ball shot". Sorry I don't know a technical term for this. Meaning, after shooting an object ball the cue ball has just enough roll to stop right in the same spot where your object ball was. Since most bar pool is on 7 ft tables, having the ability to move the cue ball in small increments is key. I feel replacing the object ball shot, which is basically allowing the sliding cue ball to run out of slide just before contact is a vital weapon for accuracy, touch, and position. :cool:
 
Donovan said:
In bar pool, I think it is the "replace the ball shot". Sorry I don't know a technical term for this. Meaning, after shooting an object ball the cue ball has just enough roll to stop right in the same spot where your object ball was. Since most bar pool is on 7 ft tables, having the ability to move the cue ball in small increments is key. I feel replacing the object ball shot, which is basically allowing the sliding cue ball to run out of slide just before contact is a vital weapon for accuracy, touch, and position. :cool:
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I think that this can be done with the drag-draw when the cue ball gains a bit of forward roll just before hitting the object ball. I like the drag-draw because your hitting the balls much softer.

You can also replace the object ball by a stun shot that creeps forward a little to replace the OB...but then you're hitting them hard...which I try to avoid...
 
Slip, Draw, and Punch

SUPERSTAR said:
I agree
The drag draw stroke (ESPECIALLY IN HUMID CONDITIONS!), and the punch follow. (for position that is in inches)

2 toughest shots to master. if you ask me
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I agree. I'll add the slip shot to that list.
 
You guys have brought up an intereting phenomenon that I have noted. If you have a medium shot, and you want the cue ball to follow forward a few inches; there are 3 options: draw drag, punch a touch above center (depending on the speed and separation distance), or the extreme slow roll.

In my not-so-expert opinion I think you want to have ALL THREE mastered if you are to compete at the top level. Depending on the equipment you are playing on, you will need all three. I've played with multiple world-beaters and noticed that each prefers one of these 3 over the others.
 
although i still use it time to time the problem with extreme slow roll is if there are any problems with the table or cloth the ball can veer off where you are aiming it (happened to me just the other night). Getting just a little forward roll by using a medium stroke and close to dead center on the cueball (depending on the distance to the object ball) is usually a better bet.
 
Williebetmore said:
You guys have brought up an intereting phenomenon that I have noted. If you have a medium shot, and you want the cue ball to follow forward a few inches; there are 3 options: draw drag, punch a touch above center (depending on the speed and separation distance), or the extreme slow roll.

In my not-so-expert opinion I think you want to have ALL THREE mastered if you are to compete at the top level. Depending on the equipment you are playing on, you will need all three. I've played with multiple world-beaters and noticed that each prefers one of these 3 over the others.
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Yep, you captured the third one...the slow roll. I didn't mention that one, because I started-out talking about bar pool...and a punch or a drag-draw would definitely be preferable over the slow roll on most bar tables...(never know if they're going to roll straight). I haven't really seen Efren play much, but I've read somewhere that he uses the drag-draw quite well and often...
 
A shot I learned that gave me a BIG bump in speed is the "Filipino" extreme inside spin shot. It is priceless to have in the tool box when you get outta line and don't want to risk running around the table for shape. I don't really have a system for aiming it, just a total feel thing. The only tip I would give is you can hit the shot much softer than it looks like you need to.....
Gerry
 
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