I played as a 6 for 13 years and won like 28 of my last 32 matches before I finally went up to a 7. In the Vegas minis I cleaned up as a 6 but not so well as a 7 because of the range. Guys like Brandon Ashcraft, Eric Durbin, Ike Runnels, Jason Kirkwood etc. make it very hard to compete against. I actually asked my LO to raise me in 9ball as wqe were going to Vegas and was worried about hurting the team. I was a 6 in 9ball and LO said I wasnt a 7 because I dont run racks. I was capable of 3 or 4 racks often and he wouldnt raise me. In Vegas I never lost a match and we finished 9 to lose to a sandbagging 3. There just isnt any rhyme or reason to some handycaps and you cant make everyone happy. I was glad to get raised to a 7 and 9 so they cant ***** anymore. Sorry this has turned out so long.
Opinions on APA 7 Speed
- Thread starter Cue Freak
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The handicap takes care of itself in due time. Unless the league operator is really missing the boat, your current handicap should be fairly accurate. If you are whooping butt at a 6, enjoy it while you can.
If I were the other team, I would spend less time moaning about a 6 versus maybe seeing a 4 or 5 shoot like mad. Fairly difficult to sandbag at a 6 without everyone knowing about it since most people are paying attention to the higher-ranked players each week.
If I were the other team, I would spend less time moaning about a 6 versus maybe seeing a 4 or 5 shoot like mad. Fairly difficult to sandbag at a 6 without everyone knowing about it since most people are paying attention to the higher-ranked players each week.
dave sutton
Banned
Ive been a 7 since 1999 i was 19 as a 7 I won 45 matches in a row. I won 8 matches in a row without looking a game and I never lost more then 4 matches in 1 year.
I dont know how terrible players THINK they have the ability to rate others. I dont play apa anymore. Tired of getting ducked and crying ECT. I played on an apa team once. We had a 3 as our captian. How can a 3 call time outs? Makes no sense to me. I like tap better
I dont know how terrible players THINK they have the ability to rate others. I dont play apa anymore. Tired of getting ducked and crying ECT. I played on an apa team once. We had a 3 as our captian. How can a 3 call time outs? Makes no sense to me. I like tap better
dave sutton
Banned
that's tough bc a good player that moves well can blow that to bits. I miss good, play 2 way shots jam up balls on purpose, take pockets. None of which are safe but are at the same times. Not many players can out shoot me, out move me or out smart me at the same time.ragoo1 said:
Ps we play apa in the pool room on 9 foot tables but ive played 3 other areas in the bar plus tap and a local league that goes up to 8
you think that's bad - have 2 break and runs (8 ball) in 1 match (as a SL5)....the other team goes ballistic when that happens (regardless how many balls went in on the break or the ease of the layout)!!!! I banged an SL6 1 night 4-1 in 5 innings. After cities next weekend...no more APA for me.
You could do all that, but you'd be wrong.ragoo1 said:
To be closer, you need to scrap the idea of "total games." It's "wins." So, 5-0 in 13 innings with one defensive is the same as 5-4 in 13 innings in defensive. That's reality. And the whole formula is more complex than that, so that's why making up your own doesn't make a lot of sense.
And if you're going to use a number to signal when to switch to a 7, might as well use the same number everyone else is using (since it was already divulged on the interne).
Fred
Sl7????
Remember that a league sporting event is a social activity first. Also remember it's only a game. There's no money in it really. The coins you might win at the end of the session won't even pay the bar tab. Have fun, concentrate on every shot when you get to the table and take your wins and losses with a jovial attitude. Treat it as the game it is. Sore losers are just that! Losers!!!!!
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
Remember that a league sporting event is a social activity first. Also remember it's only a game. There's no money in it really. The coins you might win at the end of the session won't even pay the bar tab. Have fun, concentrate on every shot when you get to the table and take your wins and losses with a jovial attitude. Treat it as the game it is. Sore losers are just that! Losers!!!!!
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
Sounds to me, by using "I usually shoot this well or better" you are looking for a little pat on the back and an "you should surely be a 7." So, here's your pat. Congrats. But, let's put all this ranking sh#$ into perspective. It depends on where you're from, number and caliber of players, big box or small, etc., etc. I've said it before. I played one year and went undefeated as a 7. I even offered (and quite often played) a bunch of the other sevens weight. I don't mean the last two either. I mean the seven, six and the break, eight and the last three, you know...real weight. I even gave up the four and the break to another seven, one night, just to prove a point. (That didn't go so well) What I'm trying to say is that the ranking system is a little off kilter. I quit playing APA for various reasons.Cue Freak said:
1. Hard to commit one night a week.
2. Whining when someone gets beat. (Even though the guy can't run 3 in a row.)
3. For all the money you pay, you might win a trip to Vegas. By the way, for all you spend, you can afford your own trip.
4. I can't stay focused long enough playing 3's and 4's. It's painful to sit and watch someone contemplate, call time out, ask info, and then dog it by at least a diamond.
5. The fun went out of it after about three weeks when I take things serious, and some just want to bang about.
6. Fu#$ it. I'd rather play for the cash. One on one. If I lose, I pay. If I make a bad game, I pay. But......If I do it right? The night out isn't on me.
APA 7 means jack shit.
last time i was at the green room (charlies pro shop in maryland) and played their lil saterday mini-tourney, i started out as a 6 in the tourney, played a ranked 7 player who i could've spotted the 7ball to and still monkey stomped him. pretty much every other APA 7 that they had in there couldn't run 6 balls, i think the only person that could even run more than one rack in a row was the guy who i ended up losing to in the finals, who was also an APA 7 but i probably would need the 8 and the breaks on a big box vs him so that just goes to show you that APA 7 means nothing.
two players who was rated the same... one i could've given the 7 to and robbed, and one that could've prob given me the 7. rreeeaaaalllll accruate rating system they have there.
also, i would like to state that if any APA 6 or below wants action they got it
last time i was at the green room (charlies pro shop in maryland) and played their lil saterday mini-tourney, i started out as a 6 in the tourney, played a ranked 7 player who i could've spotted the 7ball to and still monkey stomped him. pretty much every other APA 7 that they had in there couldn't run 6 balls, i think the only person that could even run more than one rack in a row was the guy who i ended up losing to in the finals, who was also an APA 7 but i probably would need the 8 and the breaks on a big box vs him so that just goes to show you that APA 7 means nothing.
two players who was rated the same... one i could've given the 7 to and robbed, and one that could've prob given me the 7. rreeeaaaalllll accruate rating system they have there.
also, i would like to state that if any APA 6 or below wants action they got it