Opinions Wanted!! How Many Time????

[billiardshot]

Opinion Wanted, whether postive or negative, on the subject "How many Times", should the same cue be sold?
Whether in Azers' Wanted / For Sale Section or on ebay, before it affect the cuemaker credibility and when that cuemaker have no control over the selling.

I don't know if this been posted before or if this should be in another section.

 

[BPG24]

It depends on who buys the cue. Some only buy to "test hit" and then resell it.

If a cue goes through 3 owners and they aren't known resellers than I lose interest quickly. I have noticed this as well.

 

[leehayes]

that's an interesting question. cues are all unique from what I can tell in my somewhat limited experience. Seems that unless you go with mass produced stuff that the hit and feel are unique to each cue, especially if you use maple shafts. That being the case, and no two cues really feel exactly the same it seems reasonable to think that a cue can be sold several times because it isn't the feel that someone is looking for. I recently bought an 07 Darren Hill on here and am the 3rd owner and it raised a question in my mind as to why it was sold twice already. It is a gorgeous cue, and Darren Hill cues are known for their great playability, however I don't shoot with it because I don't like the feel. That cue will get resold to someone who hopefully loves it. The people I've let play with it think it's awesome but they can't afford it. All that said...I think it should have no reflection on a cuemakers reputation for how many times a cue gets resold.

 

[Poolfiend]

People sell cues for lots of different reasons: Short on cash, got a new cue, quit playing, etc. Doesn't say anything about the cue or it's maker.

I guess if the cue is right out of the shop and then sells five times in the first couple of months that could be different.

 

[hang-the-9]

Where I play, there must be 3-4 cues that at least 3-4 players have owned. Granted some have been lost in bets, but I don't think the reputation of a cuemaker can be tarnished by how many people owned one particular cue. Maybe someone got more money and wants a fancier model, selling the old one. Which he could have bought from a person who quit pool, that was gotten used from a dealer.

Are there any stories of a dog cue that for some reason was just crap that was passed around? I can see a maker making a stick that for some reason was not up to quality (ugly inlays, hit feels odd), that would be sold based on reputation but then passed on like a hot potato.

 

[manwon]

Opinion Wanted, whether postive or negative, on the subject "How many Times", should the same cue be sold?
Whether in Azers' Wanted / For Sale Section or on ebay, before it affect the cuemaker credibility and when that cuemaker have no control over the selling.

I don't know if this been posted before or if this should be in another section.

I think you have brought up a very good issue here. I current am building some cues, mostly conversion cues. I think if a individual cue continues to be sold over and over again, it is bad for business. Whether or not there is anything wrong with the cue, I suspect you as the cue maker have to wonder why that particular cue keeps changing hands. Generally, people do not sell cues that they like, unless they are forced to do so due to some unforeseen event in their life. Now if this is a isolated event, it I do not think that it will adversely effect a cue makers reputation. However, if all cues sold by a particular makers are immediately resold, then I think it speak volumes about cues being produced by that cue maker.

Now I will also say that this can be hard to quantify, for the cue makers who have been building cues for 10 or more years. Most of these cue makers have produced very large numbers of cues during that time. Due to this it would be normal to find more of their cues being resold, of many reasons other than lack of quality or integrety of the product.

Just my thoughts!!

Have a great day!!!!

 

[RunoutalloverU]

as many times as it takes to get it into the hands of a person who likes it so much they will never sell it.

 

[manwon]

Opinion Wanted, whether postive or negative, on the subject "How many Times", should the same cue be sold?
Whether in Azers' Wanted / For Sale Section or on ebay, before it affect the cuemaker credibility and when that cuemaker have no control over the selling.

I don't know if this been posted before or if this should be in another section.

Another thing, that I did not say in my original post that I think is very important is the cues price. If cue makers cues are consistantly being sold far below the original purchase price, I suspect that the cue makers prices may be too high. This would also have ot be based upon the cues condition, but if condition is not a factor, I think it will say much about a cue makers product as far as the buyers are concerned.

Just my thoughts!!!!

 

[JesPiddlin]

control...

I had to think on this for a while. Control over something you already sold covers a lot of ground. I think the only time a maker really has any control over a product which has already been sold, is when the buyer signs a contract which covers the use, resale, disposal, etc., of the product, or when someone callously handles a product in a manner which could or does cause monetary or reputation damage to the maker's business.

Resale issues are many... There are price, condition, endurance and probably other issues which could be considered.

How much an item resells for has been an issue with many folks. I think any item is worth what one person will accept in return for it to leave their ownership and what another person is willing to pay for it. If a guy wants to resell a $20 cue that is the last one in existence and another person wants it so bad he's willing to pay $500 for it, then it's worth $500 at that time and the maker has nothing to do with the price, unless he has some kind of contract that covers it.

I think that someone who makes a product has to take all this into consideration when he sets his price. If someone re-sells your stuff at a higher or lower price, are you going to lose any sleep over it? A maker has to set a price that he can be comfortable with, regardless of the future of that item.

What if I bought fishing lures direct from the maker in bulk amounts, then I sold them for less than the guy at the discount store could sell them? I think that unless the maker has a contract that he requires you to sign at the sale, once you pay for the items, you own them and all the rights/responsibilities that go with them, so there is nothing the maker or the retail guy can say about what you decide to do with them (unless you are purposely doing something to damage their business or reputation). I mean, who's to say the wife didn't tell you to sell all 5000 of them at half price to get them out of her house???

How many times an item could be sold before it damages a maker's business and reputation... I think that might depend partly on the honesty of the reseller and the condition of the item being sold... whether it has been kept in A-1 condition, or it is obvious that the item was originally bad, or was abused by someone. A certain amount of wear and tear is expected on most resells, if the item was used much.

I think there's a lot of good and bad that goes into reselling anything. I think there's a time where it could become a legal issue, if it seriously damages a company's business, but for the most part, when it's paid for and it's delivered, you no longer have any control of what's to be done with it. If a maker is feeling like he is being done wrong, I think he should mention it and hope the guy or gal doing the damage has the decency to make a change that fixes the problem. But, if the problem gets fixed, that isn't really control. That's just being lucky you're dealing with good people. (or you got a really good attorney!)