opionions on best shaft for low deflection without being laminated

mortuarymike-nv said:
I had both. one of Kevin solid and one of his LD shafts.

I had no idea that he was sending me a LD shaft..

Hands down I like the solid maple shaft tons better.

Some of these LD shafts sound and hit different, almost like they are cracked or broke.
Its the sound and the hit that I don't care for.
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He described it to me as a ld shaft of his design, better than any commercial shaft I've played with. Short ferrule with a stiff taper, 13mm.
 
MitchAlsup said:
The point was that::
You can build a solid wood LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip,
You can buld a laminated LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip,
You can build a solid wood LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter,
you can build a laminated LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter.

That looks pretty orthogonal to me.
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You must not have read my post. Let me explain it a little better:

You can build a solid wood LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip, but it will likely warp when you do this
You can buld a laminated LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip,
You can build a solid wood LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter, but it will likely warp when you do this
you can build a laminated LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter.

Again, not exactly orthogonal. They didn't start laminating shafts for no reason, they did it because all of the solid shafts were warping when they turned them so thin.
 
The non-laminated shaft with the least amount of deflection is probably the Mezz WX900.

I think the cuechanger shafts are very good aswell, but Markus focuses on hit/feel/playability
first and low deflection second so they are not as LD as they can be.

gr. Dave
 
Mezz WD700 (now WX700) plays great, one piece but similar deflection to the 314-2 or OB1. Can also get a Mezz WX900 if you like a smaller diameter, more "Z" like taper and deflection.

SS360 shafts are laminated but also have a lot of feel to them, would be a good option as well and almost half the price.

Scott
 
jtaylor996 said:
You must not have read my post. Let me explain it a little better:

You can build a solid wood LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip, but it will likely warp when you do this
You can buld a laminated LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip,
You can build a solid wood LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter, but it will likely warp when you do this
you can build a laminated LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter.

Again, not exactly orthogonal. They didn't start laminating shafts for no reason, they did it because all of the solid shafts were warping when they turned them so thin.
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To make an excellent solid wood shaft you put it on a lathe and taper the shaft to about 14mm (target 12mm) then let it rest for a month or more. Then you take off another couple thou and let it rest some more, and on and on.......

To make an excellent LD solid shaft you put it on lathe and taper the shaft to about 14mm (target 12mm), drill a 1/16 hole in the middle then let it rest for a month or more. Then you take off another couple thou and add a couple thou to the diameter of the drilled hole, and let it rest some more, and on and on.......

Done this way, they will not warp.
 
Kenny Koo ferruless shafts play really well with fairly low deflection and great feel.
 
RSCA HOOLIGAN said:
The best you can buy is a custom CEM shaft .
CEM is a cuemaker in Germany .

Another great non-laminated LD shaft is The cuechanger , also built in Germany .
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I'm guessing you are from Germany? :wink:

If you were from Japan I would think you'd say Mezz was the best hehe.
 
jtaylor996 said:
You must not have read my post. Let me explain it a little better:

You can build a solid wood LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip, but it will likely warp when you do this
You can buld a laminated LD shaft by drilling a hole in the tip,
You can build a solid wood LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter, but it will likely warp when you do this
you can build a laminated LD shaft by turning it down to a small diameter.

Again, not exactly orthogonal. They didn't start laminating shafts for no reason, they did it because all of the solid shafts were warping when they turned them so thin.
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You are talking about taking an existing non-LD shaft and modifying. They don't really drill a hole in the tip, and if done properly even then, it won't warp. Same thing for turning it down, if done properly. If you do it at home and take the shaft down 1mm in one turn or even just by sanding the thing down, it will have a good chance of warping. If you turn it down 1/8 of a mm each turn, let it sit a few days, then do again a few times, it will be stable.
 
Best advise.... Find a very reputable maker who picks the best shaft wood and has turned the wood over a long period of time and have them make you a shaft THEN play with it and learn how it responds... Can't do any better....

Skins------ Take your time and do it like George did it...
 
hang-the-9 said:
I'm guessing you are from Germany? :wink:

If you were from Japan I would think you'd say Mezz was the best hehe.
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Christoph is from Belgium and a damn good Player:wink:
I am from Germany and he is right about the CEM Shafts, I sold alot in Thailand, most of them to US Guys and England's there:eek::grin:.
4 Guys have it on SW's.
Ralf
 
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