Overseas customer- How can I be sure?

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I have a request for a sale to a customer who says they are in Japan. They have an ebay ID with 100% feedback, but it shows the location as Georgia. Here is the message...what are your opinions?

"Thank you for the info on your ebay pages for the CUE STICK. Please provide me with the shipping and BUY IT now information (shipping cost through postal services and estimated arrival date) the destination Country is JAPAN)
I am looking forward to having this cue and present for my ASIAN CUSTOMER,they're have difficultly to find this model specially for the price lower than your offer In case you were interested, I found your store through E-bay and choose to buy direct rather that wait for the bid process.
Your CUE description and visual presentation of your products were very enticing.

i strongly prefered paypal and-or US bank check as payment methodes,you can ship when my payment cleared

I am excited and looking forward to purchase your CUE"[/I]
 
Bamacues said:
I have a request for a sale to a customer who says they are in Japan. They have an ebay ID with 100% feedback, but it shows the location as Georgia. Here is the message...what are your opinions?

"Thank you for the info on your ebay pages for the CUE STICK. Please provide me with the shipping and BUY IT now information (shipping cost through postal services and estimated arrival date) the destination Country is JAPAN)
I am looking forward to having this cue and present for my ASIAN CUSTOMER,they're have difficultly to find this model specially for the price lower than your offer In case you were interested, I found your store through E-bay and choose to buy direct rather that wait for the bid process.
Your CUE description and visual presentation of your products were very enticing.

i strongly prefered paypal and-or US bank check as payment methodes,you can ship when my payment cleared

I am excited and looking forward to purchase your CUE"[/I]
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IF YOU NEED THE MONEY BAD ENOUGH TO TAKE A BIG RISK, DO THE DEAL. IF NOT THAN STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY.
 
This looks like a typical scam email. I would stay away, some sales are not worth it if you start questioning it.
 
overseas customer?

Hmmm... well, there's some risk here...but:

They say they prefer PayPal, and that's to the good since they are the buyer. They also say you don't need to ship until the payment is cleared. That's good, too.

So, if they pay via PayPal, and you accept the money, then you are just sending the cue somewhere. You'd lose the fee to PayPal (worth it IMO), and the shipping will be more expensive (you can ask DHL how much and make it part of the price if you want).

It could just be someone in Georgia buying this for their customer in Asia someplace, so this could work.

The other risk you run is doing a Buy It Now deal, the buyer never pays, so you of course don't ship the cue, but, you need to relist. eBay will give you some credit in these cases (happened to me selling a car on eBay), but it'll cost you for the extras (like backgrounds, extra photos you put up, etc.). Talk to eBay about this.

Whatever you do, you don't ship that cue until you have the money in your bank, period.Good luck.

I'm sure this advice was worth an Original Schuler, or a Schon, so just PM me & I'll give you the shiping address! :D
 
Thanks guys...my feelings exactly.

I actually have my Ebay bidding preferences set not to allow overseas bidding, although I have made a few exceptions with folks I know from AZB. I got this "offer" for a "direct purchase" which I assume would be a "Buy it now" which I did not solicit and thought I would see if any of you had been approached/solicited in this manner.
 
SCAM ALERT. I would not even think about doing this deal.

If you do decide to do it, then I would only do it one way... tell him that you will accept only an international money order and that the item will ship when YOUR bank guarantees that the paper is good, and NOT before. May take 30 days.

If he ain't interested, there is a reason why.
 
Cardinal2B said:
Hmmm... well, there's some risk here...but:

They say they prefer PayPal, and that's to the good since they are the buyer. They also say you don't need to ship until the payment is cleared. That's good, too.

So, if they pay via PayPal, and you accept the money, then you are just sending the cue somewhere. You'd lose the fee to PayPal (worth it IMO), and the shipping will be more expensive (you can ask DHL how much and make it part of the price if you want).

It could just be someone in Georgia buying this for their customer in Asia someplace, so this could work.

The other risk you run is doing a Buy It Now deal, the buyer never pays, so you of course don't ship the cue, but, you need to relist. eBay will give you some credit in these cases (happened to me selling a car on eBay), but it'll cost you for the extras (like backgrounds, extra photos you put up, etc.). Talk to eBay about this.

Whatever you do, you don't ship that cue until you have the money in your bank, period.Good luck.

I'm sure this advice was worth an Original Schuler, or a Schon, so just PM me & I'll give you the shiping address! :D
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I am sending your cue as payment for the advice to this guy who is going to broker the deal.:D :D
 
see the other thread

Bama,
Looks increasingly scammm-like; the same exact message went to another seller who posted an AZ thread right next to yours - has eBay in the thread title. Word for word the same message.

So, I'll just have to wait for that cue you owe me :D
 
Joe,

It's a scam. I've seen that exact e-mail a few times before, and it was always a scam. If you sell to that guy you will lose your money or at the very least Paypal will freeze your account until you pay them back.
 
hey bama, i just got the same message on both my richard black and my fancy espiritu on ebay. i just made a thread myself. now i definitely think it's a scam. and look at his feedback, all the purchases are cheap weird cd's and some nylons
 
guycrunch said:
hey bama, i just got the same message on both my richard black and my fancy espiritu on ebay. i just made a thread myself. now i definitely think it's a scam. and look at his feedback, all the purchases are cheap weird cd's and some nylons
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Yeppers, I do believe everyone is correct on this one. This is one to stay FAR away from.

THEN AGAIN...he might simply have a LOT of friends that he needs cues for..........
 
Now that such scams are taking place, is using an escrow service useless? Most escrow services get the check or other form of payment from the buyer and receive the item you are selling, and if they receive both and validate that what was sent is what was expected, the deal goes through. However, they don't guarantee the check or form of payment, as far as I am concerned.

Would you use these services?
Thanks
 
Bamacues said:
I have a request for a sale to a customer who says they are in Japan. They have an ebay ID with 100% feedback, but it shows the location as Georgia. Here is the message...what are your opinions?
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Here's how their scam works.

1) You ship the cue to Japan
2) Now you get a notice saying the buyer did a chargeback
3) Paypal says "Give us the tracking information that proves you shipped the item to the customers confirmed address in Georgia"
4) You say "He asked me to ship it to Japan, and I did"
5) They say "You lose. Thanks for playing." and take back the money.

Even if you had withdrawn the money to your bank account, you'll have a negative balance in your paypal account and then what will you do?
 
interesting, i always wondered how those things worked. I usually reply to their messages with "so far as you pay via paypal with a confirmed address, and the payment clears, i can ship it wherever you like." And usually hear no response to that.

Good to know how they work those kind of things. My friend once got ripped that way, except it was to nigeria or somewhere. He sent the laptop before he got payment (idiot) and then got ripped. But he used fraud claim through USPS, and his laptop actually came back to him.. and the insurance people didnt know that.. and he got his laptop back + like $800.... lol he scammed USPS and didnt even mean to.
 
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