Pain in elbow

[Zerksies]

I have also had elbow issues in the past, but I have solved them, mostly with stretching.

FYI, I did a series of videos with two excellent sports physical therapists that cover many useful stretches and exercises to help pool players with common pool-player ailments. Here they are:

NECK/BACK/CORE:

SHOULDER/ELBOW:

WRIST/HAND:

Check them out. I have experienced many of these ailments over the years, but I don't anymore. I hope the stretches and exercises help others also.

You should seek medical attention first before trying these things

 

[Z-Nole]

I work in an educational seeing the ballet instructor diagnosed all my pains from posture and seeing me in a ballet outfit.

I have recovered from all pains and constantly practice the exercises recommended to correct years self inflicted deformations.

I am also 30 pounds lighter after following a dancers healthy eating tips. Almost at my goal weight on 190, down from 230.

So you didn't get laid? Shocking

 

[axejunkie]

Hate these damn “itis’s”. Going in on the 25th to get my shoulder looked at. Had to wait for tarpon season to end. Those exercises really helped for my other shoulder but nothing worked for tennis elbow except a shot of cortisone.

I hear ya, and unfortunately fishing has a defined season unlike pool.

 

[justadub]

With Tennis Elbow, its the tendons across the top of the arm that are painful. With Golfers Elbow, it's the tendons on the under side of the arm that are affected. Or so its been explained that way to me.

I am currently fighting Tennis Elbow, as that is what the doc's have diagnosed me with. (I got it from drumming, not from pool) It is nagging and long term, so if you're only feeling it occasionally, I suspect it's something else. The drummers that I've spoken with who have had this tell me its gonna last over a year, likely.

Maybe related. I dunno. That's why we pay the doc's (or the insurance companies, sigh) those outrageous fees. My doc hasn't helped me much, sigh. Going back to see my doc again in a couple weeks, we'll see if they have any more suggestions.

 

[dr_dave]

You should seek medical attention first before trying these things

I good sports physical therapist will also be aware of and test for any important medical issues before recommending any stretches or exercises. I have gotten a lot more help from physical therapists than doctors over the years for biomechanics-related issues.

 

[Zerksies]

I good sports physical therapist will also be aware of and test for any important medical issues before recommending any stretches or exercises. I have gotten a lot more help from physical therapists than doctors over the years for biomechanics-related issues.

Therapist can't prescribe MRI's, cat scans or x-rays or inject corosone. I have a therapist in the family and i see the doctor first.

 

[nataddrho]

I work in an educational seeing the ballet instructor diagnosed all my pains from posture and seeing me in a ballet outfit.

I have recovered from all pains and constantly practice the exercises recommended to correct years self inflicted deformations.

I am also 30 pounds lighter after following a dancers healthy eating tips. Almost at my goal weight on 190, down from 230.

This might be a good substitute for water. If I drink ballet instead of water I suspect that the posture will auto-correct, as you are suggesting. Other forms of sports drinks like Powerade or yoga may have a similar affect. The experience of the liquid is known to the native people of Tonga and Easter Island and there is a trend proposed by scholars of giant stone heads regarding the benefits of pirouettes dissolved in water with a pH level above 8. But I am not afraid to experiment with high concentrations because it also cures cancer.

 

[7stud]

This might be a good substitute for water. If I drink ballet instead of water I suspect that the posture will auto-correct, as you are suggesting. Other forms of sports drinks like Powerade or yoga may have a similar affect. The experience of the liquid is known to the native people of Tonga and Easter Island and there is a trend proposed by scholars of giant stone heads regarding the benefits of pirouettes dissolved in water with a pH level above 8. But I am not afraid to experiment with high concentrations because it also cures cancer.

I do barre work while my opponent is shooting. Plies, tendu, degage...the whole works. Sometimes my opponent accuses me of sharking, but I firmly insist that I'm working on my tennis elbow.

 

[evergruven]

I am not a dr...I just play one on the internet
I have had a good amount of PT over the years
agree with dr. dave that PTs can be very helpful
will always recommend seeing one for help

personally, I've had tennis elbow etc.
generally have had success with exercises
also not gripping too much, for too long
and avoiding fully-straightening afflicted arm
I'll try to dig up some old exercises to share

 

[u12armresl]

About ten years ago, while I was experimenting with my stroke, I once spent a few hours playing one day playing around with trying to keep my elbow perfectly still in space. I was just curious, and it didn’t feel natural. I wanted to see if I could learn anything from it. Harmless enough since we all like to gain insight into the game.

I don’t know what I did but it caused golfers elbow or tennis elbow. I don’t know which one. It was painful enough that after ignoring it for a month I needed to read about why the pain wasn’t going away. I bought a cuff that puts pressure on a muscle group on my forearm to help it heal.

I am 40 years old now and I did this when I was 30. I am active and healthy, did CrossFit, lifted 200lb atlas stones, squatted my body weight to the floor, ran 5ks during lunchtime, and weighed about 175lbs for being 6,2”. I am certain this injury was from pool and not some other activity I was doing.

I still occasionally get pain in my elbow in the same spot. What the hell did I do??? How could a few hours of a simple activity cause this?

Anyone with sports therapy or medical background can chime in. Thanks.

You read a bit about how CF has taken its toll on people and their bodies with the unconventional approaches to fitness.

 

[u12armresl]

Then in the meantime bio freeze is you're friend if that doesn't help voltaren should do the trick .

When you do get to a older age you'll look back at this and laugh about it , it can get worse ha ha
I tell my younger friends if you lift weights never stop and keep the end goal of staying toned not muscle bound .

Agree with you Rusty, except I prefer lidocaine patches @ 4% and Voltaren for sure helps.

 

[nataddrho]

You read a bit about how CF has taken its toll on people and their bodies with the unconventional approaches to fitness.

No way. Never got an injury once and only benefited from CF.

Those who get injured are the competitive types who don’t have self control over personal goals and pace and do too much too quickly. I never had that problem

 

[u12armresl]

No way. Never got an injury once and only benefited from CF.

Those who get injured are the competitive types who don’t have self control over personal goals and pace and do too much too quickly. I never had that problem

So, one person negates all others?

 

[evergruven]

here ya go..again recommend seeing a pro and use at your own risk

 

[nataddrho]

Looks like specifically I have elbow bursitis. The location of the pain and the “flare ups” over time due to inflammation make sense.

 

[straightline]

Guys
my impression is tennis elbow comes from stresses with your wrist extended and golfers elbow comes from when your wrist is flexed
since in pool your wrist should be neutral
i would not think this is a coomon pool related injury unless you have bad technique
icbw
rotator cuff injury is another story
in your bridge arm
since the bridge position puts your arm internally rotated which aggravates an impingement issue
jmho
icbw

My take is overexertion on cold ligaments. Muscle fibers have active elasticity. Tendons not so much if at all. It's the banging on cold tendons and worse the bonal (haha) attachments that do it. Weakest link and all...

 

[dendweller]

My take is overexertion on cold ligaments. Muscle fibers have active elasticity. Tendons not so much if at all. It's the banging on cold tendons and worse the bonal (haha) attachments that do it. Weakest link and all...

There's company called Incrediwear that make sleeves that are supposed to use your body heat to increase blood flow in your elbow to aid healing.
It gets good reviews. I've got one, I don't know if it works but it does seem to warm the area which has to help with the banging on cold tendons. I wear it before and sometimes during golf.

 

[straightline]

There's company called Incrediwear that make sleeves that are supposed to use your body heat to increase blood flow in your elbow to aid healing.
It gets good reviews. I've got one, I don't know if it works but it does seem to warm the area which has to help with the banging on cold tendons. I wear it before and sometimes during golf.

Here's a strange one. I read you should ice injuries because heat promotes inflammation. Whatever. I've always used heat rubs. Capsaicin products are the best for me. Can be pricey but a couple dabs will bring the burn; and OTC. The thing about those products is tendonitis is too late and can only heal through rest.

 

[ak1975]

I have golf/musicians/pool/computer elbow. The sleeves help in addition to PT, it just takes time to clear up. I am 2 months in and it just starting to get better. I can't break anymore, and need to watch tension and wrist snap in that arm when playing. getting old is awesome!

 

[ak1975]

here ya go..again recommend seeing a pro and use at your own risk

These are the movements I use to help my condition, it does help. If you overdo it, you will know. Tendons need to move and be challenged to heal, not like muscles. I have dealt with this for years as a musician. It sucks when you can't hardly hold a pour of nice bourbon in that hand with out almost dropping it.