parallel shift sidespin adjustment....

[jsp]

i never ever shift anything. Going by your definition of paralleling I do not parallel. The angle is still close but clearly not the same angle when i drop in using english compared with me dropping in on center. And remember I never shift, nor do i use BHE....i line up the bullseye that is my bridge with the intended english and from there straight at the CP...just straight delivery in every way. BHE is the anti christ to me....i havent hit one shot like that pushing a decade.

my cues lines up like this

/I\

the center I is me center ball, the two outer slashes are an exagerated angle of the line of the cue stick with that same side english, left or right.

Is your body alignment the same for each case, or are they different? If it's the same, then I'd argue you're either using BHE or FHE. If they're different for each case, such as that your body alignment with respect to your cue angle remains constant, then you're using NHE, or "no hand" english.

jsp <~~~ (lame attempt to make NHE [copyright by jsp] stick)

 

[Patrick Johnson]

jsp:
The point is that exact parallel shifting can work for numerous shots.

My point is that "exact parallel shifting" can only work for a small fraction of shots under very specific circumstances and using words like "numerous" or "a number of" is misleading to readers who don't know better.

pj
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[Patrick Johnson]

jsp:
Maybe based on how I described parallel english, maybe a better term would be "Zero Cue Angle" english, or ZCAE? Or maybe just "No Hand" english, or NHE?

I don't see why it has to have a name, especially since it just seems to be any way other then BHE or FHE.

pj
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[Jaden]

That;s the problem PJ.....

My point is that "exact parallel shifting" can only work for a small fraction of shots under very specific circumstances and using words like "numerous" or "a number of" is misleading to readers who don't know better.

pj
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It's not just a small fraction of shots...

There's very few shots that it doesn't work on.

so far I've noticed that at certain angles on longer shots, it requires a slight adjustment, but this is on an extremely tight table. I need to test it on some different tables and verify exactly how much adjustment and when it is necessary to give a more specific example, but for the vast majority of ANY angle of shots, it seems to work...

And in answer to one of your other questions. I video taped and compared stroke straightness and angle of follow through to verify I'm not subconsciously adjusting anything.

Jaden

 

[Patrick Johnson]

My point is that "exact parallel shifting" can only work for a small fraction of shots under very specific circumstances and using words like "numerous" or "a number of" is misleading to readers who don't know better.

pj
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Jaden:
That;s the problem PJ.....

It's not just a small fraction of shots...

There's very few shots that it doesn't work on.

Yes, that is the problem. Your statement doesn't make geometric sense, so you need to support your claim with something more than "I'm sure".

I video taped and compared stroke straightness and angle of follow through to verify I'm not subconsciously adjusting anything.

Saying that you're still convinced after watching a video of yourself doesn't verify anything.

pj
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[Rich93]

Jaden, I'm not sure whether I should respond to your poll.

I sort of use parallel shift. I line up the shot, I do a parallel shift, and then I adjust my aim point a little if I'm shooting hard, or using an extreme amount of english (or both). There are some shots where I don't adjust my aim at all, since swerve and throw both counteract squirt, and sometimes they cancel out.

So I use a parallel shift, but that isn't really the end of the story for how I aim when using english.

Anyway, I use a Z-2 shaft.

-Andrew

Me too, except for the Z-2. I aim for a different part of the ball when using english unless I think all the forces (squirt, swerve, throw) are going to cancel out. I don't consciously use back hand or front hand english. It's a guessing game, unfortunately, but experience helps you get better at it.