Pattern Racking 9-Ball With Soft Breaking Video

Well that's your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. I call it a skill to make the wing ball and keep the cue ball in center table without breaking too hard and having the one ball up against the end rail every time. So in your opinion the top pros are all cheaters. :grin: Maybe pattern racking is cheating but breaking and making the wing ball every time with shape on the one ball is an impressive skill.

Cracktherack said:
I call it cheating. Dennis O. is the best at it.
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Well less then half the racks were not a foul in a WPA event 3 balls have to make it past the side pocket ,
it's a nice video for players who don't know how to break 9 ball any player who knows the game knows the wing ball is pretty much a given tight on the spot , this is why a lot of turneys are going to the 9 on the spot good info on the 3 some tourneys want the 2 where you have the 3 so you just trade spots
But kudos for sharing there's never anything wrong with posting info


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Ya, I found that out the hard way. I playedin the US Open last year, practiced the break in my video for 3 months and didn't find out about the 9 ball on the spot till I got there. Had to relearn my breal 2 hours before my first match. Also didn't know about the break box, practiced breaking from the side rail those 3 months. I'll post a video making the 1 ball in the side pocket with the 9-Ball on the spot with 2 balls passing mid table.


one stroke said:
Well less then half the racks were not a foul in a WPA event 3 balls have to make it past the side pocket ,
it's a nice video for players who don't know how to break 9 ball any player who knows the game knows the wing ball is pretty much a given tight on the spot , this is why a lot of turneys are going to the 9 on the spot good info on the 3 some tourneys want the 2 where you have the 3 so you just trade spots
But kudos for sharing there's never anything wrong with posting info


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Thank you for taking the time to make and share this video. I wouldn't call this a "soft" break though, not like a Corey deuel soft break. Regardless, I look forward to experiment with this tomorrow. I also like how you used paper savers as a magic rack, you'd think all table spots would be a more rugged kind of doughnut, instead of the normal ones that always become warn out in irregular places, making it such a pin to get the head all to sit still...usually in the wrong spot
 
Both the BCA and WPA standardized rules

"2.2 Nine Ball Rack
The object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a diamond shape, with the one ball at the apex of the diamond and on the foot spot and the nine ball in the middle of the diamond. The other balls will be placed in the diamond without purposeful or intentional pattern."

Making the wing or one ball can be a skill, but pattern racking is illegal by most rule sets, and it will hurt your game in the long run.
 
peppersauce said:
I agree that pattern racking in practice all the time can hurt ones game. It doesn't hurt to practice it though and I really haven't put much effort into it myself. Sure, I've read up on it and toyed with it some but I've never really applied myself to learning how to effectively use it--both offensively and defensively. I want to though.

Pattern racking is only illegal in certain places under certain rule sets. If it's allowed by the rules of a certain tournament, league, or whatever--why not use it? Knowledge is power.

Of course, I'm not advocating breaking the rules for an advantage. If, however, the rules allow it...why not?
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Sure, if it is allowed, use it. Your opponent probably will.

But I play in a lot of tournaments, and most will use a version of the BCA/WPA/ACS rule sets; even in bar tourneys.

The problem is players will get used to, or dependent on, pattern racking, and will get called out for it during a tournament.

Pattern racking can be useful in practice, especially for beginners. But it's little more than a drill, once your doing it well. You are removing variety from your practice. Hitting the same balls into the same pockets, rack after rack, is no way to push your game further.
 
Truth is most elite players have 5 or 6 "patterns" they use in racks that they've familiarized themselves with so they can make it appear they're randomly racking when they aren't. Watch Biado or other pinoys, they've been doing it forever.
 
Side Pocket said:
... I call it a skill to make the wing ball and keep the cue ball in center table without breaking too hard and having the one ball up against the end rail every time.
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Agreed. But when you add pattern racking to the equation, to quote an AZer: it's not a game, it's a drill. I remember watching Dennis Orcullo playing 9-ball on a barbox (template with pattern racking allowed). He had the exact same layout for six breaks in a row. Every ball was within inches of the same position for every game. Is Dennis good? Yes. Is it a skill? Yes. Is it game? No.
 
If you ever played against duel when he pattern racks and soft breaks you'd call it cheating too regardless of the skill needed to do it. he makes an early 9 combo at least 50% of the time when he does
 
Bank it said:
Truth is most elite players have 5 or 6 "patterns" they use in racks that they've familiarized themselves with so they can make it appear they're randomly racking when they aren't. Watch Biado or other pinoys, they've been doing it forever.
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*ding* *ding* *ding* We have a winner!!!!

By using a few different patterns you can't be called for pattern racking :)
 
Sorry to dig up a few month old thread but I've gone back and forth giving this a try. Got pretty frustrated with it! Not as an exact set up as some make it sound. I even scanned through your video and screen shot the results of each break. You are much more consistant than I am with it, but still the balls are (in general) about in an 18" circle of being in the same spot given the crazy kiss once in a while. I'll keep at it, Thanks for the very interesting post.

I only have an 8' table, I wonder if the larger table you're playing on (more open area?) is helpful... less kisses? or do the same kisses occur... interesting I guess proportionally they'd still occur? When you shoot on a smaller table do you get the same results?
 
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