Paypal sending money to family member instead of Seller?

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RAMIII

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All, have a question as to what protection may or may not be in place on a PayPal transaction with money sent to someone other than the seller. I've reached agreement on the price of a Revo shaft with a new member here. The member doesn't post or have any transaction history. He has sent pictures of the shaft and it looks decent. He wants me to send money via PayPal to his son. Would I be protected under PayPal's terms if the shafts gets lost in the mail? I am thinking that I would not be protected, but wanted to gets folks' thoughts and any suggestions. Maybe I just need to ensure that the son is selling the shaft toe instead of his father? Let me know if anyone has been in a scenario such as this before.
Thank you,
Ryan
 
As long as you are sending it for Goods & Services you'll be covered by PayPal's buyer's protection.

If you have the option to have PayPal charge your creditcard for the payment (as opposed to your bank account or funds allready in your PayPal account) you're pretty much bulletproof.
 
Double-Dave said:
As long as you are sending it for Goods & Services you'll be covered by PayPal's buyer's protection.

If you have the option to have PayPal charge your creditcard for the payment (as opposed to your bank account or funds allready in your PayPal account) you're pretty much bulletproof.
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Correct.
Goods and Services... yes
Friends and Family... NO! NO! NO!
 
Maybe have him send you a picture with him holding the shaft 1st. At least you'll know he actually has the shaft.
Be carefull with new members.
New member and sending funds to someone else, would send major red flags to me.
I wouldn't pay without a new picture of his hand holding it. If he won't do that, you know it's bogus.
 
I would stay completely away from this transaction unless you are willing to give a stranger the purchase price. There is obviously something unusual going on. And if you have to talk to PayPal, "well, I was buying it from Joe but I sent the money to Jim," is likely going to be the end of the conversation.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I would stay completely away from this transaction unless you are willing to give a stranger the purchase price. There is obviously something unusual going on. And if you have to talk to PayPal, "well, I was buying it from Joe but I sent the money to Jim," is likely going to be the end of the conversation.
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Yeah that was my concern too... I do have PP linked to my CC, but I just want to make sure I'm protected on the PP side too, in case PP and the CC get crossways.
 
I've heard this same line of crap from several "sellers". The only way you are protected is Good and Services. If seller will not agree to that, something is wrong.
 
fishermanOICUR1 said:
I've heard this same line of crap from several "sellers". The only way you are protected is Good and Services. If seller will not agree to that, something is wrong.
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Yep, offer to pay the 3%(?) extra for Goods and Services so they break even. If they refuse (and especially if the value is less than $600), walk away. Buy a new one from a reputable seller.
 
RAMIII said:
All, have a question as to what protection may or may not be in place on a PayPal transaction with money sent to someone other than the seller. I've reached agreement on the price of a Revo shaft with a new member here. The member doesn't post or have any transaction history. He has sent pictures of the shaft and it looks decent. He wants me to send money via PayPal to his son. Would I be protected under PayPal's terms if the shafts gets lost in the mail? I am thinking that I would not be protected, but wanted to gets folks' thoughts and any suggestions. Maybe I just need to ensure that the son is selling the shaft toe instead of his father? Let me know if anyone has been in a scenario such as this before.
Thank you,
Ryan
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New member.

No transaction history.

No posting history.

Wants funds sent to a third party.

No Goods and Services.

IMO, if the shaft got lost in the mail, that would be your best chance of ever receiving it.

Run, don't walk away.
 
While I can't really say if this is legit or not, from the smell of it with a new member it is iffy, I have sold and bought things that involved my son since we both play. I have bought things in person and had my son send the guy money, and I have bought at least one thing online and had my son send them the money. However, in my case there are a lot of people that know me with a long posting and transaction history so that is something else that needs to be looked at.
 
Thanks all, appreciate the input and cautionary warnings! I'm going to be walking away from this one. Guy seems nice enough but too many suspicious actions have occurred that you all have underscored. First he wanted Zelle, then Cash app, then when he didn't have PP but his son did and he wanted it FF. I insisted on GS so then he forwaded me a link to pay his son but it was a donation link and he couldn't send me another one. Probably enough red flags by now....Do I report him to the admins?
 
Smells fishy. Like a whole crate of fish fishy. Not sure what admins can/would do, but it wouldn't hurt to report it.
 
There's an app called Nigeria finder. It will search the listing for all occurrences of the word Nigeria... The pay version will also collate family members and their illnesses.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I would stay completely away from this transaction unless you are willing to give a stranger the purchase price. There is obviously something unusual going on. And if you have to talk to PayPal, "well, I was buying it from Joe but I sent the money to Jim," is likely going to be the end of the conversation.
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Not really, the conversation screenshot with the seller requesting you send to a specific PayPal is proof enough in a claim, if a claim is even needed

"Goods and Services" is for sales, and no items received violates the terms - instant refund if seller can't prove the goods or services were delivered
 
As long as Good & Services is reported to be the one where PP provides any sort of their "protection", offer the seller to use this instead of F&F. And also offer him to pay the PP fee, end of story.
This way you will see whether he is actually willing to make a deal.

If you are concerned about this being a scam deal, also ask for a pic of a sender with the shaft, like suggested above, and also ask for a pic of a postal label. Maybe you could even arrange a PP transfer as soon as you receive such a label photo (don't know if it is possible, and actually hardly would stop a scammer, but at least you will know you are dealing with a real seller who cares at least; I suppose so because a scammer won't waste his time on that hussle I think and just move on to find another bait)
 
fishermanOICUR1 said:
I've heard this same line of crap from several "sellers". The only way you are protected is Good and Services. If seller will not agree to that, something is wrong.
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I agree. Even if they only want F&F simply for the reason of avoiding PayPal fees or tax evasion, I would have to question their character at the very beginning.

That may or may not be true, but that is how I see it. First impressions are forged in iron.
 
Vahmurka said:
As long as Good & Services is reported to be the one where PP provides any sort of their "protection", offer the seller to use this instead of F&F. And also offer him to pay the PP fee, end of story.
This way you will see whether he is actually willing to make a deal.

If you are concerned about this being a scam deal, also ask for a pic of a sender with the shaft, like suggested above, and also ask for a pic of a postal label. Maybe you could even arrange a PP transfer as soon as you receive such a label photo (don't know if it is possible, and actually hardly would stop a scammer, but at least you will know you are dealing with a real seller who cares at least; I suppose so because a scammer won't waste his time on that hussle I think and just move on to find another bait)
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