Paypal

It's economics 101. Whats not to understand? When a company offers free shipping, they are not doing it because they have a big heart. It's already figured into the final price. There is nothing free in this world.
This has nothing to do with economics or how to use PayPal, sellers always add fees into their price . The ‘point’ is …

Someone appeared to call sellers, wanting to use F&F, cheap assholes cause they didn’t want to pay the fees. I know buyers shouldn’t use it but that’s irrelevant.

At the same time the person appearing to demean sellers using F&F also stated that they add the fees into their price while using G&S covering(not paying) the fees.

All I ask was.that if you use F&F or G&S(with higher price) aren’t they both cheap assholes?
 
I give up
Don’t give up just accept/understand this.
I had a mail order service. If I tacked a $4.50 on a $45 item I got grief from my accounts. If I charged $49.50 w/ free shipping all was good.
There was a vendor here charged for shipping and a separate handling charge. That is an arrogant pad job
As for PayPal. Pay the bill don’t short them. My .02
 
Don’t give up just accept/understand this.
I had a mail order service. If I tacked a $4.50 on a $45 item I got grief from my accounts. If I charged $49.50 w/ free shipping all was good.
There was a vendor here charged for shipping and a separate handling charge. That is an arrogant pad job
I’m moving on!
 
All I ask was.that if you use F&F or G&S(with higher price) aren’t they both cheap assholes?
Well, sort of. That mostly depends on how you want to define "cheap assholes". There is little more to it than that.
I do not give any consideration to "F&F only" sales. I do at least consider the the "add 3.5% for PayPal" listings. It may still be in the range of what I would pay. I never considered either as cheap AH's as much as infrequent or second rate sellers and have less trust in their packaging and shipping practices as well as their descriptions of what they are selling.
With only accepting F&F the seller gives you no protection. May as well wire them the money. When the money is gone, it's gone! That is being a cheaper AH by far than just tacking on a few bucks to cover the cost of YOUR protection.
If I say I have a cue for sale for $1500 and will only accept PayPal gifts and services payment, it is to afford the buyer some protection and what is to say if I an either tacking on or absorbing the PayPal costs?
All these 2nd hand cues do not have any price schedule to go by so without a statement about "buyer pays extra **% for PayPal fess" how do you know what is in the sellers mind? It is either a price you are willing to pay or not. There may be some negotiations that can lessen the buyers cost too.

PayPal fees are going to be more a concern to someone who only sells a cue once in a great while. I sell a lot of stuff (not cues though) and I don't care about the fees as I am looking at the bigger picture and not each and every Ebay (or other) sale individually. I have had some small losses along the way but in the big picture, they are inconsequential.
 
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I understand what you’re saying and appreciate it, used PayPal for years, but I really am talking about something else .. signing off
 
Please excuse if mentioned … what happens if the sale is FF and the cue gets lost in transit.
 
I recently (last 4 months or so) sold 20 items ($75 each) by way of this forum, and all but one used friends and family to pay.
I offered free shipping if they covered any paypal fees.
 
FF for regulars on here is how I have done it for 20 years. Both in the action room, and for buying and selling stuff. I've never had any issues. Again, this is for regular posters we all know, even if have never have met them in real life.
 
I understand what you’re saying and appreciate it, used PayPal for years, but I really am talking about something else .. signing off
The answer to your question was, YES😂. If anyone ever tries to argue that some conditions are not contagious, lock them into the largest wager you can before showing them this thread. Priceless
 
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