Pechauer speed joint

sixballrun

sixballrun

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does anyone know where i can get the pechauer speed joint pins and inserts?
i want to make some custom joint protectors for one, but no one seems to sell them.
 
The speed joint that I've seen on the pechauers has a standard 5/16-14 joint. You can use the standard pin and brass fitting, with a few threads bored out. I spoke with Pechauer two years ago and they said that they would sell me a few if I needed them. You might also want to try giving them a call. Good luck
 
thanx for the reply. i looked at the pics of the speed joints (apparently there are 2 different kinds) on seyberts site. they look nothing like a 5/16x14 thread, but i will test it out when my buddy gets his cue. i guess i will contact pechauer directly if i want their custom parts. i was hoping to find somewhere that sold other cue components, so i don't get raped on shipping, as i live in canada.
 
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Speed joints...

Perhaps this is not the correct thread to post this question and I don't begrudge anyone from creating a "better mousetrap" but..... Why are cuemakers using "speed joints?" Rhetorically speaking here but is screwing and unscrewing a shaft to a butt such a labor intensive exercise as to warrant new fandangled technology? Can someone explain this to me logically? Thanks....
VinceS.
 
sixballrun said:
thanx for the reply. i looked at the pics of the speed joints (apparently there are 2 different kinds) on seyberts site. they look nothing like a 5/16x14 thread, but i will test it out when my buddy gets his cue. i guess i will contact pechauer directly if i want their custom parts. i was hoping to find somewhere that sold other cue components, so i don't get raped on shipping, as i live in canada.
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You can modify an existing joint screw and insert easy enough, There are quite a few cuemakers up there who can also help with cue parts to save on shipping. Off the top of my head
Roy Mason, Theiry Layani, Kevin Deroo, Harry Chigaras, If I spelled some wrong I apologise but they are easy enough to find.
 
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VinceS said:
Perhaps this is not the correct thread to post this question and I don't begrudge anyone from creating a "better mousetrap" but..... Why are cuemakers using "speed joints?" Rhetorically speaking here but is screwing and unscrewing a shaft to a butt such a labor intensive exercise as to warrant new fandangled technology? Can someone explain this to me logically? Thanks....
VinceS.
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Branding. McDermott, Viking, Pechauer, Falcon.......they all make their own type of quick release. It makes their cues and shafts unique and gives you another incentive to buy their product. Everyone has their own theory on what joint is the best, the quick release aspect is an attractive one and has a direct benefit to the player.
 
A direct benefit to the player?
Until i see a match that throws away the lag for a LeMans style start, with each player having to assemble their cue and then run to the table, first one there gets to break, i won't believe that a quick release joint has a direct benefit to the player.

Jon
 
Jon said:
A direct benefit to the player?
Until i see a match that throws away the lag for a LeMans style start, with each player having to assemble their cue and then run to the table, first one there gets to break, i won't believe that a quick release joint has a direct benefit to the player.

Jon
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The speed joint you smoke gives you unfair advantage. :p
 
Who does it benefit then? How's about you call all the stupid cue and pin makers to tell them to stop what they are doing since it is a waste of money and they will never "catch on".

Ergonomics man, making the game easier, one turn at a time.
 
pillage6 said:
Who does it benefit then? How's about you call all the stupid cue and pin makers to tell them to stop what they are doing since it is a waste of money and they will never "catch on".

Ergonomics man, making the game easier, one turn at a time.
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Quick release joints are fine for jump break cues as it speeds up the game for just a single quick shot. Other than that I see no practicle use for them. Some pins have evolved over the years for a little truer alignment and snug fit and some to add a little more forward balance to the cue.There also is a difference in the way the cue feels between a pin going directly into wood rather than an insert. All of the different thread pitchs and size changes that have come about in the last few years are mostly just a sales pitch. They're trying to push that their cues are better than the next because they have a unique pin that they have engineered to hold the shaft to the butt better than what others are offering. This also usually means you must purchase extra shafts from them.
I remember hearing, years ago, that Dave Kershenbrock came up with his brass pin while experimenting with different pitches and radiuses for a pin. He was using brass to experiment with as it cuts so much easier than stainless. Some people seen his pin and liked it so he just stayed with brass.
Dick
 
I agree, personally I like 3/8x10 and Radial pins since they go into wood. To me as long as it holds the cue together and lines up straight when tight it doesn't matter if it has 80TPI!! But I prefer the wood joint since I feel that is gives a more direct and pure feel.
 
Man I can't wait til General Motors comes out with a "quick release lug nut" so I can change tires faster. Yep, that's what I need, 1 1/2 threads holding the wheel on running at 70 mph down the interstate.
 
Jon said:
A direct benefit to the player?
Until i see a match that throws away the lag for a LeMans style start, with each player having to assemble their cue and then run to the table, first one there gets to break, i won't believe that a quick release joint has a direct benefit to the player.

Jon
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you've obviously never seen a guy who has to get out of the bar or pool hall REALLY , REALLY fast , perhaps after hustling some money !:rolleyes:

there's a good use for most things , originally intended or not !:)
 
Speed joints...

I have to agree with Jon on this one. I honestly don't see any direct benefit to the player. To the cuemaker? Sure....you have to return the product to him for repairs. I can understand it from a marketing perception only. Personally if the pin aligns the shaft perfectly that's as good as it gets. Lastly....Yes....I have seen players who need to get out of a bar quickly. Quite frankly....it's because they have no clue what they're doing there in the first place. The speed of unscrewing the cue is NOT going to aid in their escape or detract from their ultimate demise.
 
May not be a direct benefit

VinceS said:
I have to agree with Jon on this one. I honestly don't see any direct benefit to the player. To the cuemaker? Sure....you have to return the product to him for repairs. I can understand it from a marketing perception only. Personally if the pin aligns the shaft perfectly that's as good as it gets. Lastly....Yes....I have seen players who need to get out of a bar quickly. Quite frankly....it's because they have no clue what they're doing there in the first place. The speed of unscrewing the cue is NOT going to aid in their escape or detract from their ultimate demise.
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But I played with a couple Pechauer's prior to buying mine and the pin type was not the selling point. As for going back to the cue builder, not true. I had a personal friend / cuemaker make spare shafts for my Limited Edition Pechauer. FWIW.
 
I spoke to a local cuemaker about the differences in joint screws and have formed my own opinion about the subject. The whole purpose of the joint screw is to keep the shaft in constant contact with the butt. If the joint is tight and secure it doesn't matter what the screw is or made of. Now a stainless joint collar will have an obvious effect on how a cue hits because you have a chunk of metal in the middle of the cue. I personally like the uni-loc joint. A few people have shot with my cue and never realized that it was a uni-loc. I would like for some one to tell me the difference in 10 cues with 10 different joint pins, but each cue has the same shaft and the same butt. I don't believe anyone is that in tuned with a cue to tell the difference. A cue hits good when you have the right combination of woods, shaft and weight balance.

You could probably take a pechauer pin and mill the end down to make a quick release.
 
Wild Thing II said:
But I played with a couple Pechauer's prior to buying mine and the pin type was not the selling point. As for going back to the cue builder, not true. I had a personal friend / cuemaker make spare shafts for my Limited Edition Pechauer. FWIW.
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Perhaps no trouble with this particuler pin but there are many uncommen pins and you have to have a special tap made to make a shaft for them. I'm not going to spend up to 150.00 to have a special tap made to probably use only one time.
Dick
 
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