Pechauer v McDermott

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Like most of you I've been playing pool most of my life, but in the last four months or so I've really started to get serious with my playing. I'm in the market for a nice low to mid-level cue and have pretty much narrowed it down to either a Pechauer JP-10 (around $360) or a McDermott M6-4B(around $380) and wanted some opinions on the two. This is the price range I'm in and I've done some pretty heavy research on the two, but outside help can often point out things that are otherwise missed. If you had a choice what would you go with and why? Thanks.
 
Mcdermott

Between those two I'd go with the Mcdermott mainly because of their warranty, and I've heard they honor it well. I prefer a stainless joint so that would rule out the Pechauer. I like the look of the Pechauer more, but the implex joint just wouldn't cut it. That said, I would spend that money on a nice Joss as they can't be beat IMHO. Just have the shaft turned down to your taper of choice for a couple bucks. Can't beat em.:)

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It just depends on your taste. Have you played with one of the makers cue? I would say that you really can't go wrong with either one. I have a McDermott and I like the way it hits. But you might not or who ever. I would go to a billiard store near you and try to test hit one of each maker. If that is possible, so you get a feel and see if you like it.
 
I have played with a Pechauer for about 7 yrs now and would not play with anything else. They have become one of the best production cues/custom cues on the market. You can invest a minimum amount or a large amount in them and will always get a great hit and feel. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Well in order to honestly answer you.......

We posters would have had to of played extensively with both ;) Cues ! and quite honestly I've not had the pleasure of playing extensively with the Pechauer Cues, I have played with McDermots, Jacobys, Furys, Nick Varners, Falcons, Schons among a few others! For that price range I am totally sold on McDermotts their wood to wood joints and their unsurpassed warranties along with their customer service can not be beat !!!! I own 2 that are over 20 years old :D and just last week bought a new one they all play the same ! which is they all have a great hit and with no worry!:)
 
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MrLucky said:
We posters would have had to of played extensively with both ;) Cues ! and quite honestly I've not had the pleasure of playing extensively with the Pechauer Cues, I have played with McDermots, Jacobys, Furys, Nick Varners, Falcons, Schons among a few others! For that price range I am totally sold on McDermotts their wood to wood joints and their unsurpassed warranties along with their customer service can not be beat !!!! I own 2 that are over 20 years old :D and just last week bought a new one they all play the same ! which is they all have a great hit and with no worry!:)
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I would like to add that many folks talk down McDermotts because they are a production cue and have never shot any balls with them! :eek: I have played with 30 - 40 different Cue makers Cues over many years of playing pool and I fimd the McD's to be right up there with many way (and LOL! better than a lot of ) more expensive supposedly "Custom" Cues! Just my humble opinion! :)
 
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I like how the Pechaur looks, but I am another one that has to have a stainless joint. As important as the hit, is the balance and feel of the cue.
I would be very disappointed to get a cue, and find out it is 'Butt heavy'.
Find out the balance points on both cues, and also find out the diameter measurement of the butt (either McDermott or Viking has a larger than normal handle, I can't remember which one? - and definately too thick for my tastes).

Mr. Lucky ... Didn't you just have a thread on CCB about spending $1,100 on a McDermott? Even for $350-400, you can still get a custom cue made to your specs (Shurtz customs start at $220). You can not appreciate the difference until you experience for yourself.
 
Yes that was me ! and your point is......?

Snapshot9 said:
Mr. Lucky ... Didn't you just have a thread on CCB about spending $1,100 on a McDermott? Even for $350-400, you can still get a custom cue made to your specs (Shurtz customs start at $220). You can not appreciate the difference until you experience for yourself.
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:) I have over 15 Cues! I have McDermotts from $200 up to my new Knight which has a I-3 Shaft! and I am loving all of them! :D I don't get your point ? if you wish to make a comment please include all the pertinent info and relevance! :confused:

Do you work for or own this Shurtz ? I am not implying any Cue is everyones answer as you seem to be! I made it clear in order to post and answer that is relevant you need to play with the mentioned cues!
 
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McDermott for all the reasons everyone else has given. Personally I don't like the hit and feel of Peschauer cues (I own two that I really like to look at). In that price range I'd also suggest that you consider Jacoby.
 
My two choices also!

pawnmon said:
McDermott for all the reasons everyone else has given. Personally I don't like the hit and feel of Peschauer cues (I own two that I really like to look at). In that price range I'd also suggest that you consider Jacoby.
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:) Thanks! :D
 
Radiophonicus said:
Like most of you I've been playing pool most of my life, but in the last four months or so I've really started to get serious with my playing. I'm in the market for a nice low to mid-level cue and have pretty much narrowed it down to either a Pechauer JP-10 (around $360) or a McDermott M6-4B(around $380) and wanted some opinions on the two. This is the price range I'm in and I've done some pretty heavy research on the two, but outside help can often point out things that are otherwise missed. If you had a choice what would you go with and why? Thanks.
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If your game's 1 hole, I say McDermott.
Otherwise, Pechauer. Both excellent
production cues.
 
MrLucky said:
I would like to add that many folks talk down McDermotts because they are a production cue and have never shot any balls with them! :eek:
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I don't see too many people talking down McDermotts. I've seen you write this before, and I thought McDermott cues have had a pretty good following on this board and other boards. Is this one of those (false, IMO)snobbery claims?

Who talks down McDermott just because they're a production cue? I've seen reports of reduced quality out of the shop over the years. That's fair game on any cuemaker, production or otherwise.

Personally, I don't like McDermotts, but that's just me. It certainly has nothing to do with how and what they produce, and it certainly isn't because I haven't hit any balls with them. They simply don't feel and sound the way I want my cue to feel and sound. Everyone has different tastes.

I also don't like Pechauers, but other people will swear by them. To each his own.

Fred
 
My statement has to do with another post known to the intended party!

Cornerman said:
I don't see too many people talking down McDermotts. I've seen you write this before, and I thought McDermott cues have had a pretty good following on this board and other boards. Is this one of those (false, IMO)snobbery claims?

Who talks down McDermott just because they're a production cue? I've seen reports of reduced quality out of the shop over the years. That's fair game on any cuemaker, production or otherwise.

Personally, I don't like McDermotts, but that's just me. It certainly has nothing to do with how and what they produce, and it certainly isn't because I haven't hit any balls with them. They simply don't feel and sound the way I want my cue to feel and sound. Everyone has different tastes.

I also don't like Pechauers, but other people will swear by them. To each his own.

Fred
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:D not to anything I have read here! and you are correct it is a personal choice ! isn't everything?
 
Well, I've never played with either cue but I have held them and done some test strokes. I really didn't feel a terrible difference between the two in that regard, but of course playing with them is a whole different animal. Some of you pointed out the steel collar as opposed to the implex, can you elaborate on how this affects the hit, feel or playability? Thanks to all who have been so helpful.
 
MrLucky said:
We posters would have had to of played extensively with both ;) Cues ! and quite honestly I've not had the pleasure of playing extensively with the Pechauer Cues, I have played with McDermots, Jacobys, Furys, Nick Varners, Falcons, Schons among a few others! For that price range I am totally sold on McDermotts their wood to wood joints and their unsurpassed warranties along with their customer service can not be beat !!!! I own 2 that are over 20 years old :D and just last week bought a new one they all play the same ! which is they all have a great hit and with no worry!:)
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Was unable to return your PM. They said invalid
address. I prefer a somewhat softer hit when
playing 1 hole and my McDermott,"The Sierra",
is not nearly as stiff-hitting a cue as my Pechauer.
 
Ok!

hondo said:
Was unable to return your PM. They said invalid
address. I prefer a somewhat softer hit when
playing 1 hole and my McDermott,"The Sierra",
is not nearly as stiff-hitting a cue as my Pechauer.
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Good to see you again! :) And yes I like the softer touch of a good wood to wood hence my preference fot the Jacoby and then next in line McDermott ! It always boils down to your style of play and preference of hit ! Doesn't it? :)
 
Radiophonicus said:
Well, I've never played with either cue but I have held them and done some test strokes. I really didn't feel a terrible difference between the two in that regard, but of course playing with them is a whole different animal. Some of you pointed out the steel collar as opposed to the implex, can you elaborate on how this affects the hit, feel or playability? Thanks to all who have been so helpful.
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Implex is plastic that has some give, so it softens the hit a little. The implex joint weights less than stainless so it doesn't really act as a balance device. Stainless joints make the cue hit a little stiffer and give the cue a certain recognizable sound on the hit. In my opinion it makes for a more responsive hit than implex. Wood to wood joints are the ultimate in feel, but I've grown used to stainless and how it balances out the cue overall. :)
 
well, i played with a McD (eb-2) for ten years, and a Peach for about 3, so i guess i'll chime in. both cues lasted well, both cues resold well, and both are still in use. as to whether you'll like either of those two cues, there's no substitute for getting some test hits in. i don't think you'll dislike either cue as far as quality goes.

-s
 
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