Perception in CTE Pro 1
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Mohrt, I don't use half tip or pivot. Somehow the brain connects all parts of the puzzle anyway and I see the shot line.
If you use a sweep then Pro One 'delivers' you to the correct shot line.
You need experience to decide whether a left or right sweep is required. In other words does the shot need thinning or thickening. Becomes pretty obvious after a while.
Gerry Williams' video pretty much nails the difference between the 2 sweeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fosUvnt8AXU
Sorry, false alarm. It appears I play too much recently, therefore my brain understands where to shoot some range of shots without thinking. Tried something else last evening and it worked too with the same effect. My performance relates to if I get in some trance, zone then I pocket almost all balls. If not, I fail.
Now I understand I do not understand CTE at all. I mean I understand the pre-shot routine but not the aiming part. How to receive the shot line? Still not clear what perception is according to Stan and how it shall differ from one ball position to another. Somehow it is not related to the target line, not related to the pocket. By this time I know what it is not but it has been never revealed what it is.
There must be something, otherwise all balls would be cut with the same angle. Here is what I mean. I can clearly imagine any line, CTE, ETA, or whatever, then I can go around the table and the line will be there and no angle is better than another from my perception. So, what perception Stan is talking about? Why one perception is better than another?
Unfortunately I have not seen better directions to get that perception other than look at the table and practice and there is no way to understand from sitting at a computer, or if you do not pocket you do something wrong. Unfortunately these directions do not help a student at all.
The secret ingredient how to receive perception is not revealed yet.
Now I understand I do not understand CTE at all. I mean I understand the pre-shot routine but not the aiming part. How to receive the shot line? Still not clear what perception is according to Stan and how it shall differ from one ball position to another. Somehow it is not related to the target line, not related to the pocket. By this time I know what it is not but it has been never revealed what it is.
There must be something, otherwise all balls would be cut with the same angle. Here is what I mean. I can clearly imagine any line, CTE, ETA, or whatever, then I can go around the table and the line will be there and no angle is better than another from my perception. So, what perception Stan is talking about? Why one perception is better than another?
Unfortunately I have not seen better directions to get that perception other than look at the table and practice and there is no way to understand from sitting at a computer, or if you do not pocket you do something wrong. Unfortunately these directions do not help a student at all.
The secret ingredient how to receive perception is not revealed yet.
Sorry, false alarm. It appears I play too much recently, therefore my brain understands where to shoot some range of shots without thinking. Tried something else last evening and it worked too with the same effect. My performance relates to if I get in some trance, zone then I pocket almost all balls. If not, I fail.
Now I understand I do not understand CTE at all. I mean I understand the pre-shot routine but not the aiming part. How to receive the shot line? Still not clear what perception is according to Stan and how it shall differ from one ball position to another. Somehow it is not related to the target line, not related to the pocket. By this time I know what it is not but it has been never revealed what it is.
There must be something, otherwise all balls would be cut with the same angle. Here is what I mean. I can clearly imagine any line, CTE, ETA, or whatever, then I can go around the table and the line will be there and no angle is better than another from my perception. So, what perception Stan is talking about? Why one perception is better than another?
Unfortunately I have not seen better directions to get that perception other than look at the table and practice and there is no way to understand from sitting at a computer, or if you do not pocket you do something wrong. Unfortunately these directions do not help a student at all.
The secret ingredient how to receive perception is not revealed yet.
There is NO secret ingredient that has been withheld!
Stan Shuffett
Sorry, false alarm. It appears I play too much recently, therefore my brain understands where to shoot some range of shots without thinking. Tried something else last evening and it worked too with the same effect. My performance relates to if I get in some trance, zone then I pocket almost all balls. If not, I fail.
Now I understand I do not understand CTE at all. I mean I understand the pre-shot routine but not the aiming part. How to receive the shot line? Still not clear what perception is according to Stan and how it shall differ from one ball position to another. Somehow it is not related to the target line, not related to the pocket. By this time I know what it is not but it has been never revealed what it is.
There must be something, otherwise all balls would be cut with the same angle. Here is what I mean. I can clearly imagine any line, CTE, ETA, or whatever, then I can go around the table and the line will be there and no angle is better than another from my perception. So, what perception Stan is talking about? Why one perception is better than another?
Unfortunately I have not seen better directions to get that perception other than look at the table and practice and there is no way to understand from sitting at a computer, or if you do not pocket you do something wrong. Unfortunately these directions do not help a student at all.
The secret ingredient how to receive perception is not revealed yet.
Maybe this will help clear the air a bit. Setup these three shots on a table, and line up a visual such as CTEL-A with each of them. Once there, freeze and take a very close look at how your eyes are aligned to the CB/OB.
Now, someone not familiar with CTE and perceptions would assume that you will align exactly the same to each. That is, the angles are all the same. This is not what happens. Each one will be slightly different. This is due to our perception of spheres on the table surface. Give this a try and reply here with your results.
Once you sweep in, you will be on a shot line to a pocket, maybe 1, 2 or 3 rails depending on the shot and the sweep.
This might open some doors. Or open some yummy worms
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Stan, what is it then? What is perception and how to get it? What shall I look for when finding the perception? I know you have been working with the system for many years, all makes sense and simple to you, but what about someone who have not?
I am teaching a unique perception that directly connects to the pockets. This perception is so different that it was never suppose to be. I demonstrate and I explain in clear language what to see and how to connect with pockets. The info is available and if you truly want it, you'll get it just as others have but it's NOT my fault if you do not get it.
You're interested for sure and my guess is that you may soon grasp it all. Then you will understand. TRUE knowledge comes from experience.
AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING: CTE IS AIMING THAT OCCURS ON A DIFFERENT PLANE OR IN A NEW DIMENSION. The work that it takes to get it is well worth it......
Stan Shuffett
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Stan, I have respect for your shooting skills and I understand it is very easy for you and I do not blame you I cannot read your mind, it is really not your fault, but unless it is spoken or written, it is hard to understand what the person means. You know, you've been a teacher for long time, as I understand. Are you going to tell a student if you cannot understand it is their fault? I asked direct questions and direct answers would really help me and others to understand it.
I am not a teacher but pedagogy is my passion and I teach a lot, it is part of my job. I never said anything like that to any of my most difficult cases. I know, if a student does not understand it is my fault. Once, V. Yakubovich, who is a great scientist in cybernetics and happened to be my scientific research advisor and teacher told me: "If you cannot explain this to a 5th grader, you really do not know it yourself."
Thanks mohrt, I will try.Maybe this will help clear the air a bit. Setup these three shots on a table, and line up a visual such as CTEL-A with each of them. Once there, freeze and take a very close look at how your eyes are aligned to the CB/OB.
Now, someone not familiar with CTE and perceptions would assume that you will align exactly the same to each. That is, the angles are all the same. This is not what happens. Each one will be slightly different. This is due to our perception of spheres on the table surface. Give this a try and reply here with your results.
Once you sweep in, you will be on a shot line to a pocket, maybe 1, 2 or 3 rails depending on the shot and the sweep.
This might open some doors. Or open some yummy worms
The info is available to you and you are acting as if what I teach is incomplete. In other words, I should fill your gaps in a different manner so that you can understand it in your own perfect way. What you are lacking is sufficient experience at a table. It is not my fault if you do not have that at this time. I can not give you experience! The directions are complete......you will get it if you so choose.
Stan Shuffett
Stan, experience at a table will not give me understanding of your method exactly how you do it if you do not tell anything and just keep saying you already told it. I believe it is incomplete, because otherwise it would be easy for you to tell exactly what it is or point to a correct direction. Otherwise, it is like saying "do something, which I cannot explain what and you will see it and if it does not work or you do not see, you are doing something wrong".
Experience at a table will give me experience and improve my pool skills though, but it does not have anything to do with the system.
Maybe this will help clear the air a bit. Setup these three shots on a table, and line up a visual such as CTEL-A with each of them. Once there, freeze and take a very close look at how your eyes are aligned to the CB/OB.
Now, someone not familiar with CTE and perceptions would assume that you will align exactly the same to each. That is, the angles are all the same. This is not what happens. Each one will be slightly different. This is due to our perception of spheres on the table surface. Give this a try and reply here with your results.
Once you sweep in, you will be on a shot line to a pocket, maybe 1, 2 or 3 rails depending on the shot and the sweep.
This might open some doors. Or open some yummy worms
Just from working with perception videos I'm sold. The shot with the 5 ball in the center of table either left A or right C is a shot I had trouble with. I can easily align and fall in the shot the ball goes in. With this particular shot before it would not be uncommon for me to steer the ball because of alignment issues...All I can say is thank you for pushing towards CTE PRO 1
You are dead on with the 5 ball info. I have enjoyed all my studies with CTE and I appreciate your comments. I am pushing now for sure with DVD2. Be glad when it's out!
Stan Shuffett
I literally bought the DVD1 about 30 mins ago and for sure will purchase the 2nd when it comes out. I've been wanting to try this for awhile, but was a little hesitant of the of the setback in my game when trying to learn something new. But this feels pretty natural to me, knock on wood!
Thanks for your order!
You will not be disappointed in owning both DVDS.
Also, the price of DVD1 will not be reduced when DVD2 is released. I fully expect to sell all remaining stock of DVD1.
Stan Shuffett
I been working with pro one for probably about 4 to 5 months and I would have to agree with Stan that table time will help. I did not feel confident on the fact that if I was doing pro one correctly but after repeatedly rewatching the DVD and rewatching all the support videos it slowly click. And after spending countless hours on the table I notice how much my pocketing skills has gotten and the pro one system just clicked. Pro one in my opinion is simple
1. Pick up you visuals
2. After picking up your visuals focus on center cue ball
3. do not move your eyes from center cue ball until you do your sweep and fall into the shot.
its a simple system but just because its simple that does not mean you don't have to put in the necessary work in to do it correctly. Just keep at it I know how you feel. I quit pool for a month because of this system lol.
I tried it yesterday and I found ... worms.
All shots with the same visuals cut exactly the same angle.
Well, I will not try to force me to change what is not broken. I will perfect the way I aim, whatever way it is, and everything will be fine. I believe I am confident enough to do it. Thanks for your explanation anyway.
Nick
All shots with the same visuals cut exactly the same angle.
Well, I will not try to force me to change what is not broken. I will perfect the way I aim, whatever way it is, and everything will be fine. I believe I am confident enough to do it. Thanks for your explanation anyway.
Nick
Maybe this will help clear the air a bit. Setup these three shots on a table, and line up a visual such as CTEL-A with each of them. Once there, freeze and take a very close look at how your eyes are aligned to the CB/OB.
Now, someone not familiar with CTE and perceptions would assume that you will align exactly the same to each. That is, the angles are all the same. This is not what happens. Each one will be slightly different. This is due to our perception of spheres on the table surface. Give this a try and reply here with your results.
Once you sweep in, you will be on a shot line to a pocket, maybe 1, 2 or 3 rails depending on the shot and the sweep.
This might open some doors. Or open some yummy worms
And now the question. Is it the system or your skills and improved intuition after several months of practice that got you to a better game and then when you applied a consistent pre-shot routine your game became even better?
I tried it yesterday and I found ... worms.
All shots with the same visuals cut exactly the same angle.
Well, I will not try to force me to change what is not broken. I will perfect the way I aim, whatever way it is, and everything will be fine. I believe I am confident enough to do it. Thanks for your explanation anyway.
Nick
I'm pretty sure when I first started with this system, I couldn't just take instructions to the table and make them work. It takes table time and practice. Use the example shots from the DVD to get everything clicking. I think you are consciously distracted by the idea that visuals must all work the same, but if you let your eyes do the work it will come to you. The only way to get there is table time. This is very different way of aiming, "another dimension" as Stan puts it, and you must put in table time to achieve what this system unlocks.