You simply are very wrong about CTE. Why do you have such a vendetta against it? It works exactly as described and does exactly what Stan says it will.
Perception in CTE Pro 1
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You simply are very wrong about CTE. Why do you have such a vendetta against it? It works exactly as described and does exactly what Stan says it will.
Why ask a question that has been explained already in this thread?
Technically the first statement is not correct. I suspect when you say "the same line" you mean in a literal sense, however, the concern of CTE are lines that connect certain points from the shooter's prospective, not "absolute" lines. These points are different depending on the shooter's eyes position. At the same time the shooter connects center to edge all the time. Here is why we have the confusion.
If you stay right behind the line, there is only one way to create the line and only one angle is possible, when you move your eyes (for simplicity, say you moved your head) and you try to create a center to edge line, it will be different, but it will be center to edge line.
Someone told here it can only be explained in 3d. Technically it is still possible in 2d but one needs multiple images per the same position and concept with the view shifted a little bit to explain it correctly.
Yes it is...these guys called this shot to the same pocket the same everything.
Then things went south.
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Is this groundhog day?
Yes it is...these guys called this shot to the same pocket the same everything.
Then things went south.
Yes it is...these guys called this shot to the same pocket the same everything.
Then things went south.
You apply the same routine shot to shot. Each shot has a unique perspective. Technically the unique perspective connects you to the pocket. You don't have to think about the details, just do the repeatable routine.
So now you can read this and dismiss it, or realize it through experience on the table.
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There is no vendetta.
Yes it is...these guys called this shot to the same pocket the same everything.
Then things went south.
As I mentioned human language is ambiguous. Sometimes when I work with a client it takes me months to understand what they mean they want and what they want is not what they need, so I proceed with what I have and figure out details as we go.
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As I mentioned human language is ambiguous. Sometimes when I work with a client it takes me months to understand what they mean they want and what they want is not what they need, so I proceed with what I have and figure out details as we go.
Well Im sure figuring out cte/pro 1 will be much easier to figure out then your clients.:smile:
Its funny how hard aiming can be.Think about it, were working to figure out a spot 1" 1/8 behind the ob.Figure your stick is 1/2" maybe and if you know how to add that to the equation we have less then 1 1/8 to work with.Wait,Wait..lets just throw distance into the mix...yes! this can help..ok my tip stays the same size but the 1 "1/8 will start shrinking the further it gets away from me....wait there's more...........
Anthony
Aha. Add to that squirt, swerve, cut-induced throw and spin-induced throw and we can forget about ghost ball aiming.
Nick
As I mentioned human language is ambiguous. Sometimes when I work with a client it takes me months to understand what they mean they want and what they want is not what they need, so I proceed with what I have and figure out details as we go.
Interesting response. In your own area of expertise, you state "it takes me months to understand what they mean ....." yet you seem to be unable to accept that it may take several months of table time to understand CTE/Pro One. You of all people should understand this situation. No disrespect, but I've never met a software person that didn't think they knew what the Customer needed better than the Customer does. IMHO, that's why you have so many flashy apps on the market that are so incredibly inefficient.
You probably missed few messages in this long thread or misunderstood something, otherwise you would not say your first statement about me not being able to accept that.
As of the second one about software, you really do not know what kind of domain area I am talking about. A part of what I do is to help clients to understand what they need and they are willing to pay money for that. They bet X-digit figures based on the information I give them but what exactly I do and how it works is out of scope of a billiards forum. You are deviating from the point of the nature of complex human communication specially on complex subjects. Teaching billiards, like teaching other sports is a very complex. CTE is not exception.
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Speaking about teaching billiards, in-person one-one-one coaching is certainly the best. This way one can expedite the learning process. If your read (I do not remember which thread exactly) Stan offered me a lesson if I come to KY and he was sure he would be able to teach me the method. Obviously he did not mean I would have to stay for a month in KY. People learn this method very quickly during in person communication.
Learning sports remotely is completely different thing itself. It is extremely difficult but it does not mean the distance teaching process cannot or should not be analyzed or tried to be optimized. Some of my statements are about the learning process rather than the method itself.
I see the challenge Stan is facing and the fact what he did so far and it worked for some group of people is very amazing.
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Sure not. At the same time after understanding how it works (my sincere gratitude to people's replies in this thread), it took me few minutes to come up with a plan at a table and after few tries I was able to pocket balls using CTE from 3 different positions but required the same "A" connection. I had the same visuals, the same mechanics.
To master these shots, the technique of using the method or master the whole table and have consistent results with the system I would need months of practice though.
How long did it take since the time I understood how it works till I started pocketing balls? Few minutes.
Optimizations of the learning process is what I am talking about. A lot of people understand the word "the same" literally and I do not think it is beneficial for their learning process if they would spend a month understanding it is not really "the same" but something else.
The subject is discussed under different angels here and I am completely satisfied with it.
I am also sure Stan is listening to customers. That's why DVD2 will be released. And in future there might be v3, v4 and it will be better and better and will open doors to CTE for more and more people who could not understand it before from previous explanations.
We are all evolving, learning, exploring, experiencing the world. Let's just love each other or at least just try to be good to each other.
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> The subject is discussed under different angels here ...
LOL. I am not going to change this typo. Too funny.
Appreciate the thought, but we aren't really angels.
LOL. I am not going to change this typo. Too funny.
I like your style.
I couldn't agree more. I've had the benefit of a few visits with Stan and Stevie Moore as well. Long hike for you from CA but worth it. You should consider trying to come out at the same time the Derby City Classic is going on. 90 minutes from Stan to DCC.
Aha. Add to that squirt, swerve, cut-induced throw and spin-induced throw and we can forget about ghost ball aiming.
Nick
I would agree.
Anthony