PERFECT AIM is heading to PALM HARBOR, FLORIDA
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===========================================================Randy g
You assume you know how everyone plays on this forum.Tell you what since gene and you probably play a couple balls better than me .I will play either 1 of you with the call 8 and the break on the big table at my poolhall on my table.Its a sure lock for either 1 of you since he plays so great and you talk so great and no how everyone plays...
I will lock up a 1000,00 and give you a number to call if interested.[/QUOTE]
I assume very little, too much trouble.
I know I need more than the call 8 and the breaks.
I know that you figure you must be in that 1% that I left open....congratulations.
I know that Gene & I post under our real names.
I know I must have hurt your feelings....sorry.
I know that I'm not interested......thanks
SPF=randyg
You'd like to have more top players post nothing but ads?
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson;20http://forums.azbilliards.com/images/techtwo/editor/menupop.gif31825 said:
NOT!!!............and I wonder why this is not in the Wanted For Sale Section, where IMHO it belongs.:wink:
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I assume very little, too much trouble.
I know I need more than the call 8 and the breaks.
I know that you figure you must be in that 1% that I left open....congratulations.
I know that Gene & I post under our real names.
I know I must have hurt your feelings....sorry.
I know that I'm not interested......thanks
SPF=randyg[/QUOTE]
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Randy you got it all wrong i would be getting not giving.In that 99 percent
im down around about 4 maybe. I play bad,i play so bad one time i was playing a fellow and after he got done beating the heck out of me he says
son do realize how bad you play i bet you couldnt hit your a$$ in forty jabs.Talking about getting your feelings hurt.It still bothers me.
Oh well i guess its better than that one guy telling that other guy ,why dont you eat a goat and $hit up a cliff or something like that.
Tell you the truth i really not interested in playing either.smart people bother for some reason.....
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Thanks for the reply, Joey! Since you mention the distance between our eyes, I believe you have read my earlier posts discussing that - Good!. But I do not understand why you would say the answer to my question is probably no, depending upon the space between our eyes. As I've posted previously, I have measured alot of peoples eyes and found that almost all of us have 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 inch between our eyes. Which is significant, since the diameter of the cueball is 2 1/4 inch. That is why we are all in "Perfect Aim", when we center the cue between our eyes. The left eye is aligned with the left side of the cueball, and the right eye is aligned with the right side of the cueball within 1/8 inch. Therefore, the cueball/objectball overlap image is accurate.
When discussing this with Gene on the phone, he acknowledged that I might need to move my head 1/8 inch, and I responded that that was exactly what I had posted on AZB - so the answer to my question was yes. Gene said nothing because he had already affirmed the truth that he continues to avoid in these threads: That "perfect Aim" is simply a requirement that we center the cue between our eyes. Again, I invite Gene and any of his diciples to correct me if I am wrong.
So, Joey, that you say the answer to my question is probably no . . . perplexes me. It is almost as though you are purposely trying to confuse things. Like Gene did when he replied that the distance between our eyes had nothing to do with Perfect Aim. The truth is that the distance between 99% of our eyes makes 99% of us in "perfect aim" when we center the cue.
May I say it one more time: We are all in Perfect Aim when we center the cue between our eyes - within 1/8 inch.
Now things are getting very interesting, because all the SPF instructors have been saying that centering the cue is not a requirement, rather, they insist we should locate the cue where we perceive a straight line. Well, either they are full of sh*t or Gene is - cause you can only peer down the sides of the cue ball with either eye if the cue is centered (again, that is because our eyespan is approximately equal to the cueball diameter). That is not rocket science, just simple fact.
And now we have randyg informing us that he's known Gene for 35 years or so, and received a lesson in "Perfect Aim". It's interesting to me that Gene use to say the instructors were in the dark regarding eye position. and, the instructors have always insisted that centering the cue is no requirement. So, either randyg et al are full of sh*t, or Gene is. Since randyg has been given a private lesson in "Perfect Aim", he is now in a position to clear some things up regarding what "perfect Aim" is, but I anticipate both sides will slink away from this thread to cover each other's butt.
By the way, randyg et al, if you center the cue between your eyes, and have a normal eyespan (i.e. haven't been hit in face with a 2x4), are your eyes then within 1/8 inch of being in the "perfect" position to see the shot accurately. Yes or No? Joey is the first person to even act like he was trying to answer this question. Unfortunately, I don't believe his answer gained him any respect from the forum. So randyg et al, I believe here is a chance for you to establish some credibility.
If the answer is "Yes", and you been teaching that it is not necessary to center the cue, you must be very humbled, and happy that Gene has showed you the light. If the answer is "No" I assume you agree with others who believe that Gene's excellent shooting is not a result of Perfect Aim.
By the way Joey, you should review Gene's posts, and see if he has contributed anything you were referring to when you said you like pros posting here (we all do). I didn't read every post, but I couldn't find a single informative post. Perhaps you can link me to one.
Just trying to keep things on the up and up. I don't like people covering up for one another - especially when I and other forum members are possibly getting duped. Center the cue, boys, is my advice, and save $80. And Hu, do you really think the eyes are switching dominance - I can't imagine what you and Gene are even talking about. Perhaps by now you and he wish you had never acted as though you were treating that as a serious concept, rather than dismissing it as semantic confusion.
Actually Randy, I do have something to compare it against, since I bought a copy of Play Better Pool, Mastering the Basics.
While the information in your DVD is generally applicable to all players, the information in Gene's DVD is not.
Gene's method is based on the assumption that a specific optic phenomenon occurs on cut shots. He then offers a method to sight and aim to address this specific problem.
For people who actually do have this issue, Gene's method may greatly improve their game. I have no way of knowing what percentage of players fall into this category.
The method being sold is of little or no use if you don't have the problem that it is supposed to cure. I can also assure you that it is not compatible with all aiming systems.
In my opinion, the claims made in "advertising" this method on this forum should be more realistic, and the price should certainly not exceed that of DVDs that have some genuinely good and generally applicable information, as did Randy's DVD.
Just my opinion.
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Randy you got it all wrong i would be getting not giving.In that 99 percent
im down around about 4 maybe. I play bad,i play so bad one time i was playing a fellow and after he got done beating the heck out of me he says
son do realize how bad you play i bet you couldnt hit your a$$ in forty jabs.Talking about getting your feelings hurt.It still bothers me.
Oh well i guess its better than that one guy telling that other guy ,why dont you eat a goat and $hit up a cliff or something like that.
Tell you the truth i really not interested in playing either.smart people bother for some reason.....[/QUOTE]
I still like your spunk. Smart is as smart does! We both have seen the other side of smart. Have a great day....randyg
Thanks........SPF=randyg
What's the phenomenon?
pj
chgo
"And now we have randyg informing us that he's known Gene for 35 years or so, and received a lesson in "Perfect Aim". It's interesting to me that Gene use to say the instructors were in the dark regarding eye position. and, the instructors have always insisted that centering the cue is no requirement. So, either randyg et al are full of sh*t, or Gene is. Since randyg has been given a private lesson in "Perfect Aim", he is now in a position to clear some things up regarding what "perfect Aim" is, but I anticipate both sides will slink away from this thread to cover each other's butt.
I don't think Gene worries about his butt.
No matter what Gene says, he can't speak for all Instructors. It's my job as a "BCA Master Instructor" to gather information and filter it out. After his presentation the first thing I told Gene was:
"we have been teaching part of this for 30 years and it's good stuff for some players."
"By the way, randyg et al, if you center the cue between your eyes, and have a normal eyespan (i.e. haven't been hit in face with a 2x4), are your eyes then within 1/8 inch of being in the "perfect" position to see the shot accurately. Yes or No?"
For me, absolutely not!
Each player must find their perfect head position over the cue, and that might not be "centered".
Joey is the first person to even act like he was trying to answer this question. Unfortunately, I don't believe his answer gained him any respect from the forum. So randyg et al, I believe here is a chance for you to establish some credibility.
This is not about respect & credibility! It's about reality.
If the answer is "Yes", and you been teaching that it is not necessary to center the cue, you must be very humbled, and happy that Gene has showed you the light. If the answer is "No" I assume you agree with others who believe that Gene's excellent shooting is not a result of Perfect Aim."
It is a result of his "perfect aim"!!!!!!
Gene has played "great" for many years before his dvd. A secret is only a secret to you, if you don't know it.
What we should look at is: How many players has Gene helped? More than one I suspect. How can that be bad????????
We all need something to compare our knowledge against. Useful or not to some, Gene has done just that. Buy the dvd and judge for yourself.
In a month or so another tool will come along and we will have this same converstion all over again. It's called POOL talk......SPF=randyg
I don't think Gene worries about his butt.
No matter what Gene says, he can't speak for all Instructors. It's my job as a "BCA Master Instructor" to gather information and filter it out. After his presentation the first thing I told Gene was:
"we have been teaching part of this for 30 years and it's good stuff for some players."
"By the way, randyg et al, if you center the cue between your eyes, and have a normal eyespan (i.e. haven't been hit in face with a 2x4), are your eyes then within 1/8 inch of being in the "perfect" position to see the shot accurately. Yes or No?"
For me, absolutely not!
Each player must find their perfect head position over the cue, and that might not be "centered".
Joey is the first person to even act like he was trying to answer this question. Unfortunately, I don't believe his answer gained him any respect from the forum. So randyg et al, I believe here is a chance for you to establish some credibility.
This is not about respect & credibility! It's about reality.
If the answer is "Yes", and you been teaching that it is not necessary to center the cue, you must be very humbled, and happy that Gene has showed you the light. If the answer is "No" I assume you agree with others who believe that Gene's excellent shooting is not a result of Perfect Aim."
It is a result of his "perfect aim"!!!!!!
Gene has played "great" for many years before his dvd. A secret is only a secret to you, if you don't know it.
What we should look at is: How many players has Gene helped? More than one I suspect. How can that be bad????????
We all need something to compare our knowledge against. Useful or not to some, Gene has done just that. Buy the dvd and judge for yourself.
In a month or so another tool will come along and we will have this same converstion all over again. It's called POOL talk......SPF=randyg
Shankster,
I think it is up to each man to work out his own salvation. Your posts and responses to me and others seems to indicate that you have your own predispostion and you're not interested in what anyone else has to say except to pick a bone. You ask for advice then say the advice is no good and that you have your own beliefs which are completley different. That's cool. It's just that I'm not interested in that dance. Enjoy.
For the record, I don't center the cue between my eyes, nor do most professional pool players, imo.
JoeyA
Check your PM
Shankster, Im pretty sure Ive read some of Gene's posts that has talked about some players seeing best when the cue is directly under their dominate eye. So that would lead me to believe that there is more to it than just centering between the eyes.
As far as eyes switching dominance, I dont know about that. I can tell you I am right handed and left eye dominate and at times I have found my best line with the cue more under my right eye.
I have not seen Gene's video, but I would like to
As far as eyes switching dominance, I dont know about that. I can tell you I am right handed and left eye dominate and at times I have found my best line with the cue more under my right eye.
I have not seen Gene's video, but I would like to
Shankster, Im pretty sure Ive read some of Gene's posts that has talked about some players seeing best when the cue is directly under their dominate eye. So that would lead me to believe that there is more to it than just centering between the eyes.
As far as eyes switching dominance, I dont know about that. I can tell you I am right handed and left eye dominate and at times I have found my best line with the cue more under my right eye.
I have not seen Gene's video, but I would like to
Woody, Gene instructs that we should sight down the left side of the cueball with our left eye, and down the right side of the cueball with our right eye. If you are making a center cueball hit, which this "system" applies to, this requires that the cue must be centered between our eyes. This is because our eyespan is equal to the cueball diameter (within 1/8 inch), so our eyes naturally are aligned with the sides of the cueball, and we naturally sight down the edges of the cueball..
I believe the confusion regarding the eyes switching dominance, is merely semantic based, and irrelevant. Gene simply says look with one eye when cutting one direction, and with the other eye when cutting the other direction, with the cue centered so you see an accurate cueball/objectball overlap. Eye dominance doesn't enter into this, I don't believe. I am surprised shooting arts claims confusion regarding that point is the reason he's been unable to complete his review of "Perfect Aim." That seems insincere to me. But, in his defense, he also said that if the eyes don't switch dominance he wouldn't feel he got his money out of the DVD.
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Joey, You impress me as a good man. I am not trying to pick a bone with you. Let me simply point out that Gene is teaching that you must center the cue between your eyes, and receiving $80 per DVD. Either he is fulla bulla, or you, the SPF group, and the pros you referenced must be. Just trying to clear things up.