Phenolic joint vs Steel joint?

Personally I prefer a phenolic joint over a steel joint. It gives me a better feel and better feed back. This is of course subjective to the user so your best bet is to find some of these cues and play with them.
 
Shannon.spronk said:
Personally I prefer a phenolic joint over a steel joint. It gives me a better feel and better feed back. This is of course subjective to the user so your best bet is to find some of these cues and play with them.
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Well see I have ob which has the phenolic but I also have schon stl4 see I love the look of the schon and the ob shaft so I was thinking of geting a ob for the schon was just wanting too see of the schon would still give great feed back ect
 
your going to have a hard time with people answering this question.. because they all feel different to each and every person...

and no only that there are many many different configurations of both joints with many different pins.. which all change the way the prespective joint used feels..

i would say the best advice is try several cues with several different combinations.. till you find the style of phenolic or steel you like and then the pin you like... hit is suggestive so something that feels great for one person, the next person hates it or loves it.. i personally only try to buy 5/16x14 jointed cues.. i try to stay in steel or ivory.. prefferably ivory but thats me.. i played with some phenolic versions that play great but it just didnt feel the same to me.. i also tried steel flat face 3/8x11 amd 3/8x10 pin, both feel totally different then the piloted versions with the smaller pin, and then you have the phenolic versions.. which i found some cues that play amazing in my opininion with them, i find it hard to buy them without trying them first so when i see one for sale i usually just browse right by it..

i think its a mental thing for alot of people... there is a huge love for south west cues , and the few i tried, were not for me.. so again there is something for everyone and you are going to have to try everything till you know whats right for you..

chris
 
Don't get me wrong I love my ob butt I just love the simple classic look of the schon that's why I was gonna swap just didn't wanna give up hit
 
Had a stainless steel joint for 2 years, game was stagnant. Predator 314-2 shaft and stainless steel/uniloc joint was just dead and stiff. Switched to maple shaft with wood to wood joint with 3/8-10, realized I've been missing out for 2 years. Both configurations with a tiger-onyx tip. Softer and lively hit, which probably is closer to the phenolic joint for you.
 
ChrisOnline said:
your going to have a hard time with people answering this question.. because they all feel different to each and every person...

and no only that there are many many different configurations of both joints with many different pins.. which all change the way the prespective joint used feels..

i would say the best advice is try several cues with several different combinations.. till you find the style of phenolic or steel you like and then the pin you like... hit is suggestive so something that feels great for one person, the next person hates it or loves it.. i personally only try to buy 5/16x14 jointed cues.. i try to stay in steel or ivory.. prefferably ivory but thats me.. i played with some phenolic versions that play great but it just didnt feel the same to me.. i also tried steel flat face 3/8x11 amd 3/8x10 pin, both feel totally different then the piloted versions with the smaller pin, and then you have the phenolic versions.. which i found some cues that play amazing in my opininion with them, i find it hard to buy them without trying them first so when i see one for sale i usually just browse right by it..

i think its a mental thing for alot of people... there is a huge love for south west cues , and the few i tried, were not for me.. so again there is something for everyone and you are going to have to try everything till you know whats right for you..

chris
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Well said! I have had a hard time with joint/pin combos and feel its all in my head! I love a piloted 5 1/6-14 steel joint. But sometimes i feel like i will "Play Better" and get more feedback if i go back to a radial/phenolic joint or a 3/8-10/phenolic....??? BUT without everything equal(same cue maker, same taper, same tip etc etc just different joint/pins) its very very hard to get a good heads up IMO. And dont even get me started on all the LD shafts vs strong tapered plain maple with said combos! So the search for the holy grail of cues and combos continues for me.
 
my 2c

i think metal has no business being in a cue. i have a no ring, wood pin cue that plays lights out. but, even no joint ring cues that have a metal pin play better than a stainless joint cue.

pool cues should be made of wood, all wood
 
I honestly believe the guy making the cue has FFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more importance on the hit, feel, playability, etc than the joint material.
 
jhanso18 said:
I honestly believe the guy making the cue has FFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more importance on the hit, feel, playability, etc than the joint material.
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Dale Perry uses radial pins and steel sleeves over phenolic; Doesn't mean they will play well.
 
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