Phenolic Uni-Loc Shaft Insert?

CrownCityCorey

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Anyone ever use/make a Uni-Loc Quick Release shaft insert made from phenolic? Are there enough threads to keep things tight, and how did you like the hit?
 
I had a z2 made for my custom cue from the guy at rat cues. My cue is a bebot bautista with a uni loc joint. I was disappointed when I got it back and it had a phenolic insert. The feel wasnt close to what I was use to with my pechauer with a z2. Now I don't even use it, I use the standard shaft which feels and plays as good as the z2.
 
I had a z2 made for my custom cue from the guy at rat cues. My cue is a bebot bautista with a uni loc joint. I was disappointed when I got it back and it had a phenolic insert. The feel wasnt close to what I was use to with my pechauer with a z2. Now I don't even use it, I use the standard shaft which feels and plays as good as the z2.

Did you talk to Ryan about it?
We know he would make it right for you.
Gary
 
Did you talk to Ryan about it?
We know he would make it right for you.
Gary

I had a problem with the roll of the cue and the finish being cloudy when I got it back. And rather getting into it I'm not gonna waste my time bickering about it. It was brought to his attention. Back to the original post a phenolic insert can be done it won't feel the same as a metal one.
 
Asking for feedback would suggest that the responder has had some personal experience; I haven't.
I do have experience however with using phenolic inserts but not for the Uni-QR.
I prefer them for the big pins including Uni-Radial, 10, 11, etc. and even CueTec.
I have my doubts as to the long-term feasibility of a Uni-QR insert made from phenolic.
One thread engagement scares me.
29-30" of shaft is being secured to the cue by one small, narrow strip of thin phenolic.
Is there an advantage to this? What is to be gained? And yes, I can certainly see the hit being affected.
Interesting question though. I probably wouldn't have thought of it.
At least until I could also answer the question of WHY?
Not barking, just telling you how I think.

KJ
 
I had a z2 made for my custom cue from the guy at rat cues. My cue is a bebot bautista with a uni loc joint. I was disappointed when I got it back and it had a phenolic insert. The feel wasnt close to what I was use to with my pechauer with a z2. Now I don't even use it, I use the standard shaft which feels and plays as good as the z2.

The cue you sent in did not have a Uniloc pin. It was a bastard pin. I tried to build a brass insert for that particular cue twice and it wouldn't work out due to the pin configuration. The insert I built has little bearing on how that shaft plays and feels.

I offered to have you return the shaft, at my cost, so I could take a look at your concerns but you declined. I was, and still am, willing to make things right.

ALL 2nd Gen Predator shafts have a phenolic insert built 2" into the the joint end of the shaft. A brass insert may be installed into said phenolic.
 
I had a z2 made for my custom cue from the guy at rat cues. My cue is a bebot bautista with a uni loc joint. I was disappointed when I got it back and it had a phenolic insert. The feel wasnt close to what I was use to with my pechauer with a z2. Now I don't even use it, I use the standard shaft which feels and plays as good as the z2.

I sincerely doubt that Phillipine Custom would play similarly to a Pechauer regarless of the shaft/insert. Very different types of cue IMO.
 
Anyone ever use/make a Uni-Loc Quick Release shaft insert made from phenolic? Are there enough threads to keep things tight, and how did you like the hit?

To answer your question, I've never seen a Uniloc insert made from phenolic. I'm sure it could be done, though.
 
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I was asked to make one and refused. I do not think the phenolic will be strong enough over time. Sure it will work initially, but how long till it fails.
Only a matter of when, not if.
 
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