Photographing Cues

TATE said:
OK Thanks - I'll try the grey card.

btw,,,,you set the WB under the lighting conditions you will shoot with. if you change the lighting, you have to reset the manual WB
 
bruin70 said:
btw,,,,you set the WB under the lighting conditions you will shoot with. if you change the lighting, you have to reset the manual WB

I pretty much got that far but I was using it with a white background and I wasn't sure how to save it as a custom. I have custom 1 and custom 2 settings. I think you just move over to the custom settings and hit WB again when it says "evaluate white settings". I was shooting in AV mode which seems to work well with cues.

Chris
 
good question Jack,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as you know Im a rod builder too. Polarizing filter with proper temp lights set at 45 degrees should work

45 degrees is what we used for copy work when i had a screen print shop and did a lot of copy work with a large format camera.................dont ask me about digital, they arent real cameras to old guys like me

btw,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how are they biting down there?
 
TATE said:
I pretty much got that far but I was using it with a white background and I wasn't sure how to save it as a custom. I have custom 1 and custom 2 settings. I think you just move over to the custom settings and hit WB again when it says "evaluate white settings". I was shooting in AV mode which seems to work well with cues.

Chris

i think you save by hitting * or "set"
 
bruin70 said:
i think you save by hitting * or "set"

Set worked - great - that's what I've been missing. The background lighting part was driving me nuts. Thanks. When I get my new lights and studio kit. I'll publish some of the photos.

Chris
 
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zeeder said:
I second that. When I get home today I think I am going to play around with taking pics again. The light set I just bought only has two lights and I found I was still having issues getting enough light, especially when trying to take a pic of the forearm.

Well, I was taking some pics with a new aperture setting, new lights and the Raw file setting. I got some decent ones but there was more reflection than I wanted so I was deleting and taking some more pictures when I knocked over one of my lights and the bulb went out...lol. So, here's a picture I took with only one light. I need to work on my photoshop skills for sure with the background! I don't know how to do any kind of masking or anything so it's not the best. I'd appreciate any thoughts you guys have for me.

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zeeder said:
Well, I was taking some pics with a new aperture setting, new lights and the Raw file setting. I got some decent ones but there was more reflection than I wanted so I was deleting and taking some more pictures when I knocked over one of my lights and the bulb went out...lol. So, here's a picture I took with only one light. I need to work on my photoshop skills for sure with the background! I don't know how to do any kind of masking or anything so it's not the best. I'd appreciate any thoughts you guys have for me.

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over at a digital photography google forum. it has generally been agreed upon that RAW files are worthless. i used to take RAW files, but i never had to take advantage of anything it had to offer, so i just take hi-res tiff or jpg

great image!
 
zeeder said:
I need to work on my photoshop skills for sure with the background! I don't know how to do any kind of masking or anything so it's not the best. I'd appreciate any thoughts you guys have for me.

I'm no expert but the magic wand and lasso tool are a good place to start masking when used with layers.

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breakup said:
I'm no expert but the magic wand and lasso tool are a good place to start masking when used with layers.

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Now that's a nice cue.

Jim <---Colorfull
 
iconcue said:
hi zack!

pic looks pretty good to me! i can see the lack of balanced lighting as you stated. other than that i would just say to work with the raw image more in your provided software to sharpen it up. there is very little glare and what little there is could be taken care of in photoshop in a second!
how did you do the blue background?
one thing that is good to consider is with digital photography you can always fix moderate underexposure. but overexposure leaves nothing to fix in the areas of overexposure. so always look to moderately underexpose. this will also allow you to increase contrast as needed w/o getting an overexposed look.

Thanks Icon. I did the blue background by using the magic wand tool to select everything but the cue and then used the eye dropper tool to select one of the colors that was in the background that I used and used the fill command.

I'm still very green when it comes to photography so I'm going to have to do some research on what causes overexposure and underexposure.
 
iconcue said:
i agree with bru that a hi-res tif should be sufficient and also easier to work with.

bruin70 said:
over at a digital photography google forum. it has generally been agreed upon that RAW files are worthless. i used to take RAW files, but i never had to take advantage of anything it had to offer, so i just take hi-res tiff or jpg

great image!

Thanks for the compliment Bruin! I didn't spring for the Nikon program to edit raw files and just opened the image in photoshop and went from there. In the future I'll probably just stick with the highest quality jpeg since my camera doesn't offer tiff format.
 
breakup said:
I'm no expert but the magic wand and lasso tool are a good place to start masking when used with layers.

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Yeah, I used the magic wand tool to do the background. I was messing around with the lasso tool that forms to the shape of the object and my hand wasn't steady enough to get it as good as I would have liked. I'll eventually learn...lol.
 
zeeder said:
Yeah, I used the magic wand tool to do the background. I was messing around with the lasso tool that forms to the shape of the object and my hand wasn't steady enough to get it as good as I would have liked. I'll eventually learn...lol.


I’m just a hack at Photoshop and have been more proficient in the past but I appreciate its potential. The reason I mangled your photo was twofold.

1) If you were not using the various selection tools to give an example of their use.

2) In another thread someone mentioned something to the effect “how could Photoshop mis-represent a cue?”. Well in just a few minutes I took a fantastic picture of a beautiful cue and mis-represented it with a butt ugly color scheme. The reverse is also possible to take a butt ugly cue and do all kinds of dress up.



There are people out there that are really good with that tool called Photoshop. I’m sure Photoshop users know this already but for the benefit of those on the forum that have not had that exposure.


….Just food for thought.

If you are just getting into the various tools check out working with layers. That is a very important function in Photoshop.

cheers
 
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LED arrays

iconcue said:
do you have any experience with lcd light panels or led strips?

Icon, leds are a great non flickering source for multiple exposure or food work where you need cool sources to shoot ice cream. In macro mode though each one of the leds act like a pin source creating multiple hightlights. You can use a small softbox over them but you lose a lot of f stop. There also usually more expensive than tungsten studio lights.
 
Low Light Pics

nipponbilliards said:
Thank you so much everyone.
How about taking pictures of pool players in a dark tournament room without flash, any suggestion?

Richard<--trying to get some free advice here:-)

Richard, low light means slow shutter speed with long exposure time = use a tripod. If your old school using 35mm try 800asa pushed in developing to 1600 asa. Let the lab know. Cost extra. Will also increase grain. Also great for rock n roll concerts.
 
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