Piking a tip ungentleman like?

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I just read this and am confused. Is picking a tip during a match considered ungentleman like in the UK?

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O'Sullivan avoids cue-tip censure

O'Sullivan has gone through more than 20 cue-tips at The Crucible
Ronnie O'Sullivan has been given the benefit of the doubt after controversy over an incident with his cue-tip.
There was a 15-minute delay in the 14th frame of O'Sullivan's semi-final match against Graeme Dott after his cue-tip came loose.

TV footage seemed to show O'Sullivan picking at the cue-tip, an action which could be punishable under snooker's "ungentlemanly conduct" rules.

But tournament director Mike Ganley said the footage was "inconclusive".

"We all know Ronnie's had tip problems," Ganley told BBC Sport.

"I spoke to Ronnie. He assures me the tip was loose and he couldn't go on."

Ganley explained the usual protocol if a player experiences problems with the cue-tip during a match.

"If a tip becomes loose or is damaged during a frame, the player can get an interval, mid-session or mid-frame," he said.

"We usually give them 15 minutes to redress the tip, have a knock with it and then go back out into the arena."

Asked how any proven deliberate damage to a cue-tip would be treated, Ganley admitted the matter was a grey area.

"It is a very difficult one because it is unprecedented.

"But it could come under the ungentlemanly conduct rule and maybe further action could be taken from that point."

O'Sullivan glued on a new tip - his 21st since arriving in Sheffield - with the help of friend and fellow professional Jimmy Michie.

And the world number one showed no ill effects after the change, making a 124 clearance on his return to the table.
 
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nipponbilliards said:
I just read this and am confused. Is piking a tip during a match considered ungentleman like in the UK?

Here is the article:



O'Sullivan avoids cue-tip censure

O'Sullivan has gone through more than 20 cue-tips at The Crucible
Ronnie O'Sullivan has been given the benefit of the doubt after controversy over an incident with his cue-tip.
There was a 15-minute delay in the 14th frame of O'Sullivan's semi-final match against Graeme Dott after his cue-tip came loose.

TV footage seemed to show O'Sullivan picking at the cue-tip, an action which could be punishable under snooker's "ungentlemanly conduct" rules.

But tournament director Mike Ganley said the footage was "inconclusive".

"We all know Ronnie's had tip problems," Ganley told BBC Sport.

"I spoke to Ronnie. He assures me the tip was loose and he couldn't go on."

Ganley explained the usual protocol if a player experiences problems with the cue-tip during a match.

"If a tip becomes loose or is damaged during a frame, the player can get an interval, mid-session or mid-frame," he said.

"We usually give them 15 minutes to redress the tip, have a knock with it and then go back out into the arena."

Asked how any proven deliberate damage to a cue-tip would be treated, Ganley admitted the matter was a grey area.

"It is a very difficult one because it is unprecedented.

"But it could come under the ungentlemanly conduct rule and maybe further action could be taken from that point."

O'Sullivan glued on a new tip - his 21st since arriving in Sheffield - with the help of friend and fellow professional Jimmy Michie.

And the world number one showed no ill effects after the change, making a 124 clearance on his return to the table.
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This is a very interesting article. It sounds like a sharking technique to me. If a player deliberately picks at his cue tip to loosen it or to damage it in any way, I could see that as unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't understand why a player should recieve a time out for an incident like that especially at a pro level. That is what spare shafts are for. If the shooter doesn't have a spare shaft, he's just asking for trouble. Deliberately causing a delay in game play should result in a disqualification in my opion.
 
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It would b very difficult to prove a player "intentionally" damaged his tip. I agree with Pool Fool. No T.O. Go to your spare shaft, or even your spare Q and shaft. 21 new tips? :confused: That couldn't happen in a lifetime. What is that smell? Smells fishy to me. :rolleyes:

Charlie
 
It would be unsportsmanlike if the opponent was shooting, I wouldn't have a problem if he did it during his turn. I think most of the pros use jointed cues alot of times the shaft is 3/4 of the length.
 
Yes, Ronnie is using a John Parris’s 1 piece cue. So there is no way of changing shaft. Unlike pool cues, snooker cues are all made with one shaft (for 2 piece cue). If you have played with a snooker cue you well know that all woods play and feel differently.

Top snooker players are sensitive when it comes to tip. They will salvage out only one to two tips out of 50 tips in a box. Most top players do vice the tips. They will again pick the best of out of that vice tips. Once place on their cue and if it doesn’t play right, off it goes, one wasted tip. That explain why Ronnie had over 20 tips changed.

Glue that are open and use the first time will be better than glue that has been open (container/tube) for several days and is expose to air. Ronnie might be using the latter glue which is not that adhesive. With the amount of power play by Ronnie it is not surprising that the tip come loose.
 
interesting

icem3n said:
Yes, Ronnie is using a John Parris’s 1 piece cue. So there is no way of changing shaft. Unlike pool cues, snooker cues are all made with one shaft (for 2 piece cue). If you have played with a snooker cue you well know that all woods play and feel differently.
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Ah... I see said the blind man. I did not know that snooker cues only come with one shaft and in Ronnie's case a one piece. It's a tough call to make though because he was seen picking at the tip and claimed to be having trouble with it. I know it would seem ridiculous to carry another playing cue in his case since it is a one piece. I've played snookers only once(with a high run of 78) and wouldn't know the difference in a 1 piece and 2 piece cue when it comes to snookers.
 
Ronnie's talented, but he's taking attention seeking to a new level. He practically picked his tip off, it was plain for all to see. This is why he's disliked by quite a few people. He also complained about a man in the audience shouting "Come on Graeme" when Ronnie probably has more people shouting for him than most.

He's playing well though. 8-8 at the moment and they start the mornign session at 10 this morning. And they'll finish off tonight.
 
tsw_521 said:
You get BBC? Lucky bastard :)
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I know :D :D

p.s. Ronnie is putting up a bit of a comeback. He was 16-8 down at the start of the final session, it's now 16-10 and Ronnie looks on form.

update Dott at the table plays a great snooker, ronnie in trouble
 
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